= ISC Meeting on 2017/7/3 14:00 - 15:00 = Participants: Hiro Yamamoto, Arai, Kokeyama, Akutsu, Aso, Izumi, Michimura (eZuce meeting) === Next meeting === 2017/7/31 14:00 - 15:00 (July 17 is a holiday) [[LCGT/subgroup/ifo/ISC/Meetings|back to Meetings page]] == Minutes == * Vibration from heat links * information also needed for WAB * OMC suspension * frame resonant frequency should be fixed based on vibration isolation requirements * frame should be made like Bosch frame (screws screwed in the direction of pillars are bad!) * flipped OMC is inconvenient for alignment * put beam dumps as much as possible on OMC * Somiya and Kasuya visit Koji's OMC lab (Amaldi at Caltech) * DC QPD holder * stages are not needed for ISC DC QPD * design new ones; they can be very simple [-> Michimura?] * calibration can be done in different ways * put strain relief and anchors for cables to protect QPD board * bKAGRA sensitivity update * torsion modes of blade springs could complicate the suspension thermal noise == Agenda == * PSL EOM Layout re-consideration [Enomoto] ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=6748|JGW-T1706748]]) * Delay-line length decided to be 2.66 m (instead of 8.88 m) * Modulation phase between f1 AM and PM is always aligned (we need this to be aligned) * Modulation index needed at each EOM is less than measured maximum index by Uehera ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5611|JGW-T1605611]]) * Optickle simulation by Kohei Yamamoto * simulation on imperfections (MZ arm asymmetry, MZ lock, EOM phase difference control etc.) * start with hand calculation, simple setups, and then to full IFO simulation * Requirement on carrier power loss? * Comment from Stefan Ballmer * Similar calculation was done in LIGO in the past. Displacement noise requirement for MZ was tough (~1e-14 m/rtHz). * Any in-air interferometer suffer from jitter and frequency noise which cannot be suppressed. * OFI and OMC status? [Somiya] * look for OFI with larger aperture [Somiya] * output optics task sharing status? * OMC baseplate issue? * design review on June 26 at Titech ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=6853|JGW-G1706853]],[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=6854|JGW-G1706854]]), layout review on July 3 {*} * OMC suspension (Flipped optics or not? 3 or 4 wires? 2 or 1 DC PD? How to damp and actuate pendulum?), OFI suspension * Actuator noise modeling [Michimura,Miyamoto] ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=3453|JGW-T1503453]]) * Updated magnet size for cryopayload marionette ([[KAGRA/Subgroups/VIS/ActuatorDesign|ActuatorDesign wiki]]) * Updated lock acquisition section to derive velocity requirements for suspensions (see [[KAGRA/subgroup/ifo/MIF/Minutes20170410|ISC Meeting minutes 20170410]]) [Michimura] * Magnetic noise calculation updated ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=4459|JGW-T1504459]]) [Shimoda] {*} * Added torque effect on magnets * Needs to implement frequency noise, but FSS modeling with ALS is complicated [student!] * Discuss mirror vibration from heat link {*} * Ochi is measuring vibration of cryo-shield, which is different cryo system from the mirror * Yamada is measuring spring constant of heat links * Miyamoto has the cryopayload suspension model * bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5692|JGW-T1605692]] * Fixed mirrors for AS port (including SR2) * Some comments from the Chief Meeting * Revised schedule seems compatible with PRMI. Why not? * PRMI is an option after achieving the Phase 1 goal, if it doesn't delay the final bKAGRA [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5595|JGW-T1605595]] * Initial alignment does not interfere with ITM Type-A installation work? * Evacuation of IXC/IYC compatible with Type-A installation work? * Baffle PDs for initial alignment in vacuum * confirmed with Akutsu that he is thinking of putting PDs on narrow angle baffles * vibration isolation for baffle PDs necessary? * possibility of seeing beams with Tcam * IR/green steering mirrors [Michimura] (see [kagra-isc 01649]) * for POP/POS and green steering in PR2/SR2 chamber, needs picomotors and ~40 cm pedestals * need this by the end of August 2017 (after PR2 installation on June, before IR initial alignment starts on September) * proposed mirror specs * HR reflectivity: more than 99% for both 1064nm and 532nm * AR refectivity: less than 0.3 % for 1064nm, similar for 532nm * incient angle: 20-45 deg, s-polarization * radius of curvature: flat * should be something like: larger than *** km {*} * size: 2-inch * wedge: 1 deg * substrate: Fused Silica * surface quality: λ/20, 0.1 nm rms roughness * DC QPD holder [Michimura] {*} * we are using oplev QPD ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=2411|JGW-D1402411]]) for ISC DC QPD * we will need QPD mounts for them, just like oplev QPD mount ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=3562|JGW-D1503562]]) * beam height should be 4inch to use similar mount, with small modification of spacer (instead of 3inch in [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=2607|JGW-D1402607]]) * RF PD, RF QPD boxes are designed for 4inch beam height * bKAGRA sensitivity update {*} * quantum noise calculation was wrong (pointed out by Haino) * sign mistake, very slight effect on sensitivity * suspension thermal noise calculation was wrong (pointed out by Komori) * strange behavior with respect to sapphire blade resonant frequency * temperature gradient treatment was wrong * update on sapphire mirror temperature * ITM substrate absorption turned out to be ~30 ppm/cm ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=6429|JGW-G1706429]]) * 80 ppm/cm was assumed in the last update, so mirror temperature was 23.1 K ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5698|JGW-G1605698]]) * currently re-calculating the thermal noise, with non-equilibrium condition and less substrate absorption [Komori, Somiya, Ballmer, Michimura] See [[KAGRA/subgroup/ifo/MIF/Minutes20170410|this page]] for other agendas.