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= ISC Meeting on 2020/04/13 13:00 - 15:00 =
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= ISC Meeting on 2021/04/13 13:00 - 15:00 =
Participants: Satoshi Tanioka, Kenta Tanaka, Naoki Koyama, Chiaki Hirose, Kentaro Somiya, Kiwamu Izumi, Koji Nagano, Marc Eisenmann, Masayuki Nakano, Naoki Aritomi, Shoichi Oshino, Tomotada Akutsu, Yua Michimura
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 * Interferometer alignment [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=12594|JGW-T2112594]] (Michimura)
  * For O4, ISS setup will be removed from IMMT1T table but IMMT1 oplev setup will remain.
   * We should take care if it affect IMMT1T QPD signals.
  * Dan Chen made some scripts to give the position of the beam in Tcam.
   * We might be able to use this to center the beam on ITMs and ETMs automatically.
  * The reason why we used BS in PRMI alignment instead of ITMY is because BS had more drift than ITMY.
  * In the OMC alignment actually, OSTM was used instead of OMMT1.
   * Kenta confirmed this by checking the guardian script.
  * TRX IR QPDs were actually investigated to see where the pitch-yaw coupling in the QPD signals comes from, but the issue was not solved
   * '''A/I''' Check if there's any klog reports
  * What do we do for the beam positioning on SRM?
   * In aLIGO, there was a QPD to monitor SRM transmission
   * In KAGRA, we might be able to use OMMT1 transmission
    * In KAGRA, we don't have an OFI before OMMT1, so we might suffer from back scattering
    * '''A/I''' Investigate if we can put a QPD (or two QPDs)
   * We can always use A2L for the beam positioning.
   * SRM HR camera should be there, but may be it is not useful especially after mid-Baffle installation
  * What can we do for the automation?
   * Use Tcam beam positioning script instead of using our eyeballs
   * Replace POP POM and POS POM with PZT mirrors instead of picomotors
    * The gouy phase separation between POP POM and PR3 (POS POM and SR3) is small. We might want to use PZT mirrors on POP/POS table.
    * Remember that POP POM and POS POM are put on a in-vac suspended table
    * Putting oplevs to POP POM and POS POM might be tough considering space available
  * Beam positions on PR2, PRM, IMMT2 are not controlled
   * BPC might not be useful in PRMI since signals are covered by frequency noise
   * Put cameras?
   * In aLIGO, beam position on PRM did not affected the sensitivity much
  * Gouy phase separation between IMMTs and PRs
   * In Xarm IR alignment, IMMT2 and PR2 were used, but IMMT2 was often skipped. This seemed to be from the degeneracy, but Gouy phase separation between two is ~19 deg, which seems to be enough.
  * Baffle PDs
   * They are not used any more, but it is always good to have extra sensors.
  * IMMT1 and OMMT1 were not used for the alignment. ITMY and SR3 was also not often used.
 * Fiber noise cancellation improvement plans for ALS [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=12769|JGW-T2112769]] (Tanioka)
  * The end mirror for the reference path drifts too much
   * Will be replaced
  * Resonant peaks of PZT limits the control bandwidth
  * PZT actuation range is small for long-term stability
   * Fiber temperature loop is there, but not enough
   * Use woofer and tweeter configuration
  * 45 deg incidence on PZT mirror gives coupling to alignment
   * Use AOM instead (in long term upgrade)
   * 0 deg incidence and put waist on the mirror
    * Change in the optical layout necessary
   * Use PBS to minimize the change in the optical layout?
 * Report from the site
  * IMC ASC simulation work started
  * Layout modifications of IMC optical tables started
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  * Non-polarized beam splitter
  * In-vac steering mirrors: https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=12592
  * Fiber noise cancellation improvement plans for ALS [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=12769|JGW-T2112769]] (Tanioka)
  * Non-polarized beam splitter https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10506 [Michimura]
   * IMC REFL: Thorlabs BSW11 are used (Ts=~40%)
   * IMC TRANS: Probably Thorlabs BSW11 are used
   * REFL: Note that p-pol is coming out from the chamber. Newport 10Q20HBS.33S (for s-pol) are used. Thin film polarizers are also used and there seems to be a confusion.
   * POP: Newport 10Q20HBS.33S (for s-pol) is used. S-pol/P-pol power ratio can be confused with this BS.
   * POS: No BS placed.
   * AS: p-pol is coming out from the chamber. We agreed to use HWP to make them s-pol and to use Newport 10Q20HBS.33S (for s-pol). But this solution might be confusing.
   * Planning to order non-polarized BS soon.
  * In-vac steering mirrors: https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=12592 [Michimura]
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  * Optical table cover for TRX/TRY and IMC REFL/IMC TRANS: [[KAGRA/subgroup/ifo/MIF/Minutes20210412|Review page]]   * Optical table cover for TRX/TRY and IMC REFL/IMC TRANS: [[KAGRA/subgroup/ifo/MIF/Minutes20210412|Review page]] [Michimura]

ISC Meeting on 2021/04/13 13:00 - 15:00

Participants: Satoshi Tanioka, Kenta Tanaka, Naoki Koyama, Chiaki Hirose, Kentaro Somiya, Kiwamu Izumi, Koji Nagano, Marc Eisenmann, Masayuki Nakano, Naoki Aritomi, Shoichi Oshino, Tomotada Akutsu, Yua Michimura

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Minutes

  • Interferometer alignment JGW-T2112594 (Michimura)

    • For O4, ISS setup will be removed from IMMT1T table but IMMT1 oplev setup will remain.
      • We should take care if it affect IMMT1T QPD signals.
    • Dan Chen made some scripts to give the position of the beam in Tcam.
      • We might be able to use this to center the beam on ITMs and ETMs automatically.
    • The reason why we used BS in PRMI alignment instead of ITMY is because BS had more drift than ITMY.
    • In the OMC alignment actually, OSTM was used instead of OMMT1.
      • Kenta confirmed this by checking the guardian script.
    • TRX IR QPDs were actually investigated to see where the pitch-yaw coupling in the QPD signals comes from, but the issue was not solved
      • A/I Check if there's any klog reports

    • What do we do for the beam positioning on SRM?
      • In aLIGO, there was a QPD to monitor SRM transmission
      • In KAGRA, we might be able to use OMMT1 transmission
        • In KAGRA, we don't have an OFI before OMMT1, so we might suffer from back scattering
        • A/I Investigate if we can put a QPD (or two QPDs)

      • We can always use A2L for the beam positioning.
      • SRM HR camera should be there, but may be it is not useful especially after mid-Baffle installation
    • What can we do for the automation?
      • Use Tcam beam positioning script instead of using our eyeballs
      • Replace POP POM and POS POM with PZT mirrors instead of picomotors
        • The gouy phase separation between POP POM and PR3 (POS POM and SR3) is small. We might want to use PZT mirrors on POP/POS table.
        • Remember that POP POM and POS POM are put on a in-vac suspended table
        • Putting oplevs to POP POM and POS POM might be tough considering space available
    • Beam positions on PR2, PRM, IMMT2 are not controlled
      • BPC might not be useful in PRMI since signals are covered by frequency noise
      • Put cameras?
      • In aLIGO, beam position on PRM did not affected the sensitivity much
    • Gouy phase separation between IMMTs and PRs
      • In Xarm IR alignment, IMMT2 and PR2 were used, but IMMT2 was often skipped. This seemed to be from the degeneracy, but Gouy phase separation between two is ~19 deg, which seems to be enough.
    • Baffle PDs
      • They are not used any more, but it is always good to have extra sensors.
    • IMMT1 and OMMT1 were not used for the alignment. ITMY and SR3 was also not often used.
  • Fiber noise cancellation improvement plans for ALS JGW-T2112769 (Tanioka)

    • The end mirror for the reference path drifts too much
      • Will be replaced
    • Resonant peaks of PZT limits the control bandwidth
    • PZT actuation range is small for long-term stability
      • Fiber temperature loop is there, but not enough
      • Use woofer and tweeter configuration
    • 45 deg incidence on PZT mirror gives coupling to alignment
      • Use AOM instead (in long term upgrade)
      • 0 deg incidence and put waist on the mirror
        • Change in the optical layout necessary
      • Use PBS to minimize the change in the optical layout?
  • Report from the site
    • IMC ASC simulation work started
    • Layout modifications of IMC optical tables started

Agenda

  • Summary of interferometer alignment in O3GK and RSE commissioning JGW-T2112594 (Michimura)

  • Discussion on how to proceed for O4
    • Are we going to remove ISS setup at IMMT1T?
    • Any upgrades necessary for IMC ASC?
    • Can we automate the beam centering with Tcams for reproducibility?
    • Any thoughts on why PRMI alignment has to be done before Yarm alignment?
    • Are there better ways for daily alignment?
    • What are the steps necessary for engaging WFS/QPD loops in O4?
  • Other recent topics related to ISC
    • Fiber noise cancellation improvement plans for ALS JGW-T2112769 (Tanioka)

    • Non-polarized beam splitter https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10506 [Michimura]

      • IMC REFL: Thorlabs BSW11 are used (Ts=~40%)
      • IMC TRANS: Probably Thorlabs BSW11 are used
      • REFL: Note that p-pol is coming out from the chamber. Newport 10Q20HBS.33S (for s-pol) are used. Thin film polarizers are also used and there seems to be a confusion.
      • POP: Newport 10Q20HBS.33S (for s-pol) is used. S-pol/P-pol power ratio can be confused with this BS.
      • POS: No BS placed.
      • AS: p-pol is coming out from the chamber. We agreed to use HWP to make them s-pol and to use Newport 10Q20HBS.33S (for s-pol). But this solution might be confusing.
      • Planning to order non-polarized BS soon.
    • In-vac steering mirrors: https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=12592 [Michimura]

      • For some steering mirrors, p-pol beam
        • STM1, STM2, POM1, POM2 around IFI (PYD-20 is used)
        • steering mirrors after OFI
        • PYD-20 has a transmission
          • T < 70ppm at 0 deg for s-pol (measured)

          • T < 25ppm at 30 deg for s-pol (measured)

          • T < 5ppm at 45 deg for s-pol (measured)

          • T ~ 1000pppm at 45 deg for p-pol (specsheet)
        • Also, specs of POP_POM and POS_POM for IR p-pol needs to be investigated
    • Optical table cover for TRX/TRY and IMC REFL/IMC TRANS: Review page [Michimura]

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