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Program Advisory Board

PAB FY2024 Follow Up

Date: October 25, 2024

Time: 22:00 ~ 24:00 JST

Location: Remote (zoom link was sent from Albert-san to PAB members)

PAB members

Name	Affiliation

Albert Lazzarini (Chair)	LIGO / Caltech
Stefan Ballmer	LIGO / Syracuse University
Anamaria Effler	LIGO / LLO
Keita Kawabe	LIGO / LHO
Akira Yamamoto	KEK / CERN
Junichi Watanabe (Observer)	NAOJ


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Time	Subject and Title	Speaker	JGWdoc	LIGO DCC

22:00-23:50	Updated Answers for PAB Recommendation and Answers for more additional questions	Shinji Miyoki	O updated 19:40 JST 25th Oct	O
23:50-24:00	Status for the evaluation of MEXT (No detail at present)	Shinji Miyoki

KAGRA Commissioning Status in the LVK meeting

Past PAB

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-=== Date: May 8(Wed) ~ 10(Fri), 2019 ===
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- * [[http://www.mir.co.jp/en/route_map/|Access to Kashiwanoha-campus station of Tsukuba Express (TX) line]]
 * [[http://www.fc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/en/|The University of Tokyo Future Center Initiative]] at Kashiwanoha-campus station
 * [[http://www.gardenhotels.co.jp/eng/kashiwanoha/|Mitsui Garden Hotel]] at Kashiwanoha-campus station
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=== Time: 22:00 ~ 24:00 JST ===
=== Location: Remote (zoom link was sent from Albert-san to PAB members) ===
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-=== Reviewers ===
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-||Albert Lazzarini (Chair)||LIGO/Caltech ||
||Norna Robertson||LIGO/University of Glasgow ||
||Jo van den Brand||VIRGO/Nikhef||
||Bangalore Sathyaprakash||Pennsylvania State University||
||Misao Sasaki||IPMU, University of Tokyo||
||Junichi Watanabe||NAOJ||
||Akira Yamamoto ||KEK||
||Jesper Munch||Adelaide University||
||Chang Hee Nam||IBS Center for Relativistic Laser Science||
+||Albert Lazzarini (Chair)||LIGO / Caltech ||
||Stefan Ballmer||LIGO / Syracuse University ||
||Anamaria Effler||LIGO / LLO||
||Keita Kawabe||LIGO / LHO ||
||Akira Yamamoto ||KEK / CERN||
||Junichi Watanabe (Observer) ||NAOJ||
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-=== KAGRA visit ===
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||22:00-23:50||Updated Answers for PAB Recommendation and Answers for more additional questions ||Shinji Miyoki|| [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=16100|O]] updated 19:40 JST 25th Oct|| [[ https://dcc.ligo.org/G2402272 | O ]] ||
||23:50-24:00||Status for the evaluation of MEXT (No detail at present)|| Shinji Miyoki ||  ||  ||
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- * [[http://www.hyperdia.com/en/|Access to Toyama station]](put Toyama for destination)
 * We will use the ICRR car for the transportation between Excel Hotel Toyama and KAGRA site.
 * We will pick up PAB members who join KAGRA tour in front of Excel Tokyu hotel at 8:15AM. Please come to the entrance of Excel Tokyu hotel  by 8:15AM.

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||||KAGRA site tour schedule||
||8:00||leaving  ANA Toyama Hotel  by car (accompany person: Miyakawa)||
||9:00||arriving KAGRA Observatory Office in Kamioka||
||9:30||leaving the Office||
||9:45-12:05||KAGRA site tour (Center and X-end)||
||12:05-12:45||lunch||
||12:55-13:35||SK tour||
||13:55||returning KAGRA Observatory Office||
||14:15||leaving the Office   by car (accompany person: Miyakawa)||
||14:55||arriving Toyama Airport||
||||||Moving to Tokyo　by airplane (accompany person: Miyakawa)||
||16:00||Toyama – 17:10 Tokyo (Haneda)   [ANA320]||
||18:25||Haneda (Terminal 2) – 19:44 Kashiwanoha-campus  [Airport shuttle bus]||

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||Time|| ||
||8:15||leaving  Toyama Excel Tokyu Hotel||
||9:15||arriving KAGRA Observatory Office||
||9:45||leaving KAGRA Observatory Office||
||10:05-11:35||KAGRA Xend area visit||
||11:35-12:15||lunch||
||12:15-13:15||SK tour||
||13:15-14:20||KAGRA center area visit||
||14:40||arriving KAGRA Observatory Office||
||14:50||leaving KAGRA Observatory Office ||
||15:30||arriving Toyama Airport||
||||Moving to Tokyo　by airplane (accompany person: ooooo)||
||16:10-17:20||Toyama - Tokyo (Haneda)   [ANA320]||
||18:25-19:44||Haneda - Kashiwanoha-campus  [Airport shuttle bus](Terminal 2)||

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=== Program ===

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||Time||Subject and Title||Speaker||File||
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||9:00-9:30||||(Closed session by PAB members only)|| ||
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||9:30-9:50||Purpose of this PAB and Status of KAGRA||Kajita||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10163|o]]||
||9:50-10:10||Project management and SEO activities||Saito||[[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10140|o]]||
||10:10-10:40||KSC report||Shinkai||[[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10156|o]]||
||10:40-11:10||Responses to the recommendation by PAB2018||Ohashi||[[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10159|o]]||
|| ||||20min Break|| ||
||11:30-12:00||KAGRA Roadmap/Risk Management||Ando||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10162|o]][[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10176|o]]||
||12:00-12:30||KAGRA schedule||Uchiyama||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10153|o]]||
||12:30-13:00||KAGRA commissioning report||Miyakawa||[[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10150|o]]||
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||13:00-14:00||||Lunch|| ||
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||14:00-14:30||KAGRA upgrade||Aso||[[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10151|o]]||
||15:00-15:30||KAGRA Data Analysis||Tagoshi||[[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10161|o]]||
||15:30-16:00||KAGRA Infrastructure||Miyoki||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10154|o]]||
||16:00-16:30||KAGRA Safety||Ohashi||[[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10164|o]]||
|| ||||30min Break|| ||
||17:00-17:40||||Report of subgroup || ||
||17:00-17:20||CRY||Ushiba||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10160|o]]||
||17:20-17:40||DET||Yamamoto ||[[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10152|o]]||
||17:40-18:30||||(Closed session by PAB members only)<<BR>>Question from PAB|| ||
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||18:30-20:30||||||Banquet <<BR>> [[attachment:KAGRA/Meeting/Reviews/PAB/IMG_0082.jpg|{{attachment:KAGRA/Meeting/Reviews/PAB/IMG_0082th.jpg||width=250}}]]  <<BR>> [[attachment:KAGRA/Meeting/Reviews/PAB/IMG_0084.jpg|{{attachment:KAGRA/Meeting/Reviews/PAB/IMG_0084th.jpg||width=250}}]]||

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||Time ||Subject and Title ||Speaker ||File||
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||8:15-9:00||||Continue closed session by PAB -- to include N. Robertson|| ||
||9:00-11:00||||Response to PAB Questions|| ||
||11:00-12:00||||(Closed session by PAB members only)|| ||
||12:00-13:00||||Comment from PAB||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10186|o]]||
||13:30||||Adjourn|| ||

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== Q&A from PAB ==
||No.||Question from PAB||Answer||
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||1.||What are KAGRA managements’ thoughts regarding the impending departure of KEK from the MOU regarding KAGRA support in the area of cryogenics? Are there other areas of common areas of synergistic collaboration going forward beyond KAGRA construction and into operations?||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10182|o]]||
||2.||In KAGRA”s opinion, what constitutes an acceptable “physics result” in O3 that will ensure KAGRA’s continued funding by MEXT?||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10183|o]]||
||3.||What tasks will be assigned to (246) people spending time the observatory during science operations? How long will individual visitors be at the site? How will they be trained? How many will be contributing to keeping the detector in operation at its optimum operating point? Will they continue to work on their problems once they return to their home institutions?||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=xxxx|x]]||
||4.||With regard to safety concerns: We would like to know how much time/budget is involved in realizing the various remaining safety measures: specifically:<<BR>>   -    laser safety -- there should be a card-access based system to only allow laser-safety qualified staff to enter areas of high power laser hazards. Related: an automatic shutdown remains something that should be required and installed. The current manual safety shutdown is not sufficient in case of a serious accident.<<BR>>   -    air supply ducts -- ensuring adequate air supply in the event of a cave-in, especially at the X-end.||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=1018|o]]||
||5.||What does the risk register from 2015 look like? Is it possible for KAGRA to share this with the PAB tomorrow?||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=xxxx|x]]||
||6.||Can KAGRA show their projections of the transfer function and attenuation of ground motion for Type-A VIS that has 3 stages mechanically shorted? Specifically, is there an h[f] curve that characterizes this configuration?||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=xxxx|x]]||
||7.||What are KAGRA’s plans for on-line data analysis plans? How many real-time trigger generators will be running? Which ones are they?||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=xxxx|x]]||
||8.||What is the decision-making process within KAGRA organization? The PAB found it peculiar that a number of presenters showed “personal opinions” as part of their presentations, e.g., modified schedules etc.||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10184|o]]||
||9.||How does KAGRA approach public outreach, especially to the stakeholders (funding agencies and the general public). The PAB considers this important as KAGRA contemplates seeking additional funding.||[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=10185|o]]||