Differences between revisions 2 and 6 (spanning 4 versions)
Revision 2 as of 2016-05-26 05:14:30
Size: 12832
Editor: YoichiAso
Comment:
Revision 6 as of 2016-05-26 15:46:34
Size: 10744
Editor: MarkBarton
Comment:
Deletions are marked like this. Additions are marked like this.
Line 14: Line 14:

Line 25: Line 23:
 * Accelerometers for IP
  * Test of NIKHEF accelerometer (Fujii)
  *
Geophone is too noisy for innertial damping in Kamioka -> this argument presented in Sekiguchi PhD thesis
  * #TAMA SAS accelerometers for Type-A
 * Accelerometers for IP<<BR>>
  * Is Geophone too noisy for innertial damping in Kamioka ? (Shoda)
Line 30: Line 26:
   * Joris seems to be interested in continue the test according to Raffaele.
   * Need to see if this accelerometer is good enough (seems to have some problems).
   * Test status (Fujii)
Line 35: Line 30:
  * '''Conclusions of this week''':
   * We should first see the result of Fujii-kun's test. '''Aso will follow up on his experiment in the next week. '''
   * For the question of how bad the geophone is, '''Shoda will check Sekiguchi thesis and report by email. '''
 * Pre-isolator assembly and tests
  * Sato-san will come to Kamioka next week
 * Pre-isolator assembly and tests<<BR>>
Line 42: Line 33:
 * Bottom filter local sensor for Type-A
  * Tell SEO about the wider cross tube -> Wider tube is not possible
  * Fix EQ stop at the bottom ? -> This is possible
   * Takahashi had a discussion with Saito: modify the design of the bottom plate is easier.
  * #EQ stop design should take into account of the sensor/actuator mounts.
  * #Use the same sensor/actuator as Type-Bp ?
  * #Sato-san is responsible for this part.
 * Bottom filter local sensor/actuator for Type-A
  * Any progress ?
   * What is the space available for the sensors/actuators ?
  * Fix EQ stop at the bottom: modify the design of the bottom part of the EQ stop to be tightly fit into the tube.
Line 52: Line 40:
 * Bottom Filter LVDT
  * Virgo people wants to produce ones for us.
Line 58: Line 48:
  * Discuss in Optics Meeting.
  * #In order to test this with the BS test haning, we want to have wide OSEMs as witness sensors on the mirror.
  * #Stab-flag and tipped flag are both in quotation. We will order both. The gluing jigs will be the same.
  * #Who will design and prepare the BS length sensing OpLev ? -> Ask Simon (Aso) -> in progress
 * #What shall we do with PR2
  * PR2 chamber has only one viewport avaibale at 45deg. angle for OpLev
  * Original idea: Put a reflecting mirror on the bread board and monitor the rotation of the bread board with another OpLev.
   * No length sensing
   * Two OpLevs needed
  * Another idea: Introduce the light with a fiber into the vacuum chamber to form a one-way 45deg. OpLev for length sensing.
   * Length sensing possible
   * Affected by the vacuum chamber tilt (if we mount the fiber collimator to the inner frame, the tilt will be less).
   * Need to find a place to mount the fiber collimator inside the vacuum chamber
    * '''See if we can find any mounting point on the inner frame (Akutsu) by the next next VIS meeting.'''
  * Optical design will be discussed in Optics Meeting.
 * What shall we do with PR2
  * Fixing an OpLev component on the inner frame seems possible (Akutsu)
Line 74: Line 53:
 * What are necessary in the next few weeks ?
  * We need to count the number of necessary circuits for Type-A and Type-Bp, so that we can tell AEL the total number necessary for VIS.
  * '''Make a
list by the end of May (Shoda, Takahashi) -> [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5193|List]] '''
 * What are necessary in the next few weeks ?<<BR>>
  * '''Make a list of VIS electronics by the end of May (Shoda, Takahashi) -> [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5193|List]] '''
Line 84: Line 62:
   * '''Noise requirement for the resistance fluctuation is necessary (Aso) '''    * Noise requirement for the resistance fluctuation is necessary (Aso)
    * If we require the resistance noise to be smaller than DAC noise, the allowed fluctuation is 10^-7 Ohm/sqrt(Hz)@10Hz.
    * Asking Michimua-kun to calculate the requirements from the suspension response.
Line 87: Line 67:
  * '''DC-DC convertor noise check: quiter than a battery ? '''
Line 93: Line 72:
 * Past Week Summary
  * Fabian did inventory of parts/fasteners for dummy BS, RM, IM and IRM - almost all at Mitaka. A handful (picos, pico drivers) will be brought back from Kamioka.
  * Fabian continued work on Mathematica and Matlab models of the BS and control system. He now gets much better agreement after correcting discrepancies between the parameter sets.
  * Hirata-san worked on:
   * Checking Mirapro assembly frame drawings
   * Ordering missing screws and small items (screws for dummy mass, fine pitch M8 for RM)
   * Work platforms and clean booth second floor arrangement.
   * [[attachment:BS assembling hanging frame 吊り枠_ver2.pdf|Load gauge adapter]] and associated parts
   * Possible fall-back plans for the rods connecting the security structure to the PI.
   * Design for additional IM trim masses (existing design had one mass per corner and no provision for adding/removing).
 * Type B Past Week Summary
  * Fabian prepared a work space in the ATC cleanroom and moved in nearly all the parts for the dummy BS, RM, IM and IRM.
  * Fabian finally got perfect agreement between the Mathematica and Matlab models of the BS. (The wire thicknesses had in µm instead of mm, leading to some modes off by 1E3.)
  * Hirata-san remeasured the BF for the BS. He noted that the cap went on and came off easily (unlike some other filters).
  * Hirata-san worked on final details of the Mirapro order for the assembly frame.
  * Hirata-san and Takahashi-san washed a large batch of parts.
  * Tatsumi-san will glue flags, sapphire primary prisms and metal secondary prisms to the dummy BS some time in the week of 6/8. Fabian and possibly Mark and/or Hirata-san will travel to KEK to help and observe.
Line 104: Line 80:
  * Mark designed a [[attachment:PI Guide.png|guide part]] to help place the PI accurately onto the security structure.
Line 106: Line 81:
  * Some holes are missing on the bottom of the BF: 4 holes instead of 6 -> less number of the cable cramps
   * Put multiple cables in one cable cramp.
   * Check the SF too.
 * IM assembly
  * Planning to do it in ATC. Use the clean room used for the SF assembly.
  * Fabian made an inventory. Most parts are ready.
  *
 * IM, RM, IRM, dummy BS assembly
  * Fabian prepared space in the clean room used for the SF assembly and moved in nearly all parts.
  * Still need to find SDC-treated hook for maraging wire in IM.
  * Will start assembly 5/30
Line 115: Line 89:
  * Fukushima-san preparing test: 3/4/2016 + "1 month" = ≈4/1/2016, not ready as of 4/8.-> Takahashi will ask the status.
 * Flags, Metal Prisms
  * IM and BS flags and metal prisms ordered; expected 5/31
 *
Sapphire Prisms - expected 6/5
 * BS dummy optic
RECEIVED
  * Fukushima-san preparing test: 3/4/2016 + "1 month" = ≈4/1/2016, not ready as of 4/8.-> '''Takahashi will ask the status. '''
 * Flags, Metal Prisms, Sapphire prisms RECEIVED
Line 121: Line 92:
  * Tatsumi-san has ordered modifications to mirror box for final flags and prisms.   * Tatsumi-san is planning to use mirror box to put flags etc on dummy BS the week of 6/8. Fabian+1 will help/observe.
Line 127: Line 98:
 * EQ stop screws, extensions and lock nuts (in manufacture - promised for 4/22)  * EQ stop screws, extensions and lock nuts RECEIVED
Line 129: Line 100:
  * Initial batch received - need to design and order smaller ones to allow for adjustments   * Initial batch received - ordered extra smaller ones to allow for adjustments.
Line 131: Line 102:
  * '''Assembly procedure ?'''
Line 136: Line 108:
  * Hirata-san did new Inventor assembly with Mirapro's initial design plus various improvements including clean bag supports.   * Final assembly frame quote received; is being extended to included lower breadboard part modifications.
Line 141: Line 113:
  * BS 3D Assembly
   * Load frame adapter added
Line 193: Line 163:
 * Mon: IP
 * Tue: IP
 * Wed: IP
 * Thu: IP
 * Fri: IP
 * Mon:
 * Tue:
 * Wed:
 * Thu:
 * Fri:
Line 200: Line 170:
 * Travel (Week of 5/23)
  * Takahashi:
  * Shoda:Elba
  * Mark:
  * Fabian:
  * Okutomi:Elba
  * Fujii: 23-27 (Accelerometer, PR3)
  * Ishizaki:
  * Hirata:
  * Ohishi:
  * Sato: Wed-Fri (Acceleromter)

 * Travel (Week of 5/30):
 * Travel (Week of 5/30)
Line 222: Line 180:
  * Sato:

 * Travel (Week of 6/6):
  * Takahashi:
  * Shoda:
  * Mark:
  * Fabian:
  * Okutomi:
  * Fujii:
  * Ishizaki:
  * Hirata:
  * Ohishi:
Line 232: Line 202:
2016/5/27(Fri) 13:30 - 2016/6/3(Fri) 13:30 -

Next VIS F2F 6/10 ?

VIS Meeting on 2016/5/27

2016/5/27 13:30 -

Room 210

Participants:

Overall Schedule

  • The current overall schedule chart.

iKAGRA related activities

PR3

  • PR3 post-run work status (Fujii)

bKAGRA preparation

Important Issues

  • Suspended bread board
    • #Many critical components will be installed on it (baffles, steering mirrors for the green injection etc)
    • We have to make sure that the bread board suspension is properly damped
      • Takahashi checked Sekiguchi thesis
      • Damping effect depends on the ratio of mass and resonant frequency. Estimated effect was 0.45 for the experiments. The number of magnets needed in the same condition is about half.
      • 30 magnets necessary for the gap of 5mm -> need to update the calculation for the double pendulum case (Takahashi)

  • Accelerometers for IP

    • Is Geophone too noisy for innertial damping in Kamioka ? (Shoda)
    • NIKHEF accelerometers for BS
      • Test status (Fujii)
    • #Which accelerometers for SR ?
      • Buy from NIKHEF ? How much is the cost ?
      • Get the design from NIKHEF and produce them in Japan (ATC) ?
  • Pre-isolator assembly and tests

    • What is the plan for SR Type-B
    • Takahashi and Mark will start the discussion on, where, who, when -> continue.

  • Bottom filter local sensor/actuator for Type-A
    • Any progress ?
      • What is the space available for the sensors/actuators ?
    • Fix EQ stop at the bottom: modify the design of the bottom part of the EQ stop to be tightly fit into the tube.
  • Dummy payload design for Type-A
    • Okutomi-kun is assigned.
    • Okutomi will make schematic design. One of the engineers will make drawings. Report more detailed plan by the next week (Takahashi).

  • Bottom Filter LVDT
    • Virgo people wants to produce ones for us.

Common Issues

  • Wide OSEM production (Akutsu)
    • For BS test hanging, we need the wider version by mid-to-late June.
    • Got cost estimates for the small parts. Will order for 20 OSEMs.
  • Length sensing OpLev

    • Optical design will be discussed in Optics Meeting.
  • What shall we do with PR2
    • Fixing an OpLev component on the inner frame seems possible (Akutsu)

Electronics

  • What are necessary in the next few weeks ?

    • Make a list of VIS electronics by the end of May (Shoda, Takahashi) -> List

      • Presented the list to AEL. Miyakawa-san agreed.
      • Need to update the list to include IMMT
      • Discuss how many spares to make at the next AEL meeting
  • Watch dog system (Tanaka)
    • Wants to do tests with the existing PR3 sometime in fall ? Need coordination.
    • photo-MOS relay switch resistance fluctuation
      • Noise requirement for the resistance fluctuation is necessary (Aso)
        • If we require the resistance noise to be smaller than DAC noise, the allowed fluctuation is 10^-7 Ohm/sqrt(Hz)@10Hz.
        • Asking Michimua-kun to calculate the requirements from the suspension response.
      • Tanaka measured the photo-MOS relay resistance fluctuation-> 37mOhm RMS upper limit

        • Will make spectrum of the resistance fluctuation.
    • #The next step: Make a prototype with slow shutdown mechanism

Type-B

  • KAGRA/Subgroups/VIS/TypeB

  • Task list/schedule

  • Type B Past Week Summary
    • Fabian prepared a work space in the ATC cleanroom and moved in nearly all the parts for the dummy BS, RM, IM and IRM.
    • Fabian finally got perfect agreement between the Mathematica and Matlab models of the BS. (The wire thicknesses had in µm instead of mm, leading to some modes off by 1E3.)
    • Hirata-san remeasured the BF for the BS. He noted that the cap went on and came off easily (unlike some other filters).
    • Hirata-san worked on final details of the Mirapro order for the assembly frame.
    • Hirata-san and Takahashi-san washed a large batch of parts.
    • Tatsumi-san will glue flags, sapphire primary prisms and metal secondary prisms to the dummy BS some time in the week of 6/8. Fabian and possibly Mark and/or Hirata-san will travel to KEK to help and observe.
    • Mark worked more on E1504235 BS Assembly Procedure (Draft on OneDrive)

  • Discussions

  • IM, RM, IRM, dummy BS assembly
    • Fabian prepared space in the clean room used for the SF assembly and moved in nearly all parts.
    • Still need to find SDC-treated hook for maraging wire in IM.
    • Will start assembly 5/30
  • Wires
  • Can we make SR wire breakers bigger?
    • Fukushima-san preparing test: 3/4/2016 + "1 month" = ≈4/1/2016, not ready as of 4/8.-> Takahashi will ask the status.

  • Flags, Metal Prisms, Sapphire prisms RECEIVED
  • Mirror box (Tatsumi)
    • Tatsumi-san is planning to use mirror box to put flags etc on dummy BS the week of 6/8. Fabian+1 will help/observe.
  • An extra structure attached to the EQ stop to prevent tipping over of the BS.
    • Will consider if we can make it to the test hanging. But not critical for the test hanging.
    • No action since last week.
  • Not enough crane height problem (Hirata, Saito)
    • No action since last week
  • EQ stop screws, extensions and lock nuts RECEIVED
  • Ballast masses for payload
    • Initial batch received - ordered extra smaller ones to allow for adjustments.
  • Lower breadboard stuff
    • Assembly procedure ?

    • Breadboard spring bases and associated cable clamps RECEIVED
    • Breadboard springs (in manufacture)
    • Damper ring mods RECEIVED
    • Nail-head parts: quote from Mirapro received, not urgent, will be combined with assembly frame order.
  • BS Assembly Frame Design (Mark, Hirata)
    • Final assembly frame quote received; is being extended to included lower breadboard part modifications.
  • Clean bag
    • Ordered - expected 6/8.
  • 2D and 3D CAD
  • Electronics
    • JGW-D1503600 - BS Suspension Cabling

    • E1605111 BS Suspension Electronic Items List

    • D1503901 In-Vacuum Cable Detail

    • Item list and timetable was given to Miyakawa-san - some corrections received and added to schematic but not yet posted.
    • Status on AEL boxes OK according to Miyakawa-san.
    • Signal generator and cable to be used for BS test. May order NIKHEF cards later if concern about AC-driven units in racks.
    • Need to get new longer versions of some previously ordered BF-PI and SF-PI cables (Takahashi).
    • Need to check previously ordered TM-BF and IM-BF OSEM cables have been flipped (Takahashi).
    • Decided to hand-make cables for geophones because previously ordered cables have no conductor on pin 5.
    • Stepper drive box (requested by Sekiguchi-san T1503385) is being designed, should be ready in time.

  • Procedure documents

Type A

  • Task list (Takahashi)

  • Clean booth design for 2F https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bi9ij91radmpt5/IXYV160512.pdf?dl=0

    • Ask Miyoki-san to add cable racks
  • Prototype test of the EQ stop
    • Will do the test in ATC
    • EQ stop and assembly frame prototype were shipped to Mitaka
    • Will start the preparation from the next
  • Sensors to monitor the release of the SFs from the EQ stop.
    • Now considering to use some touch sensors
    • Will test this sensor in the prototype test
  • #The test of prototype long maraging rod was finished
    • Will order them with maraging rods for the cryogenic payload early July. The lead time is 2 months.
  • Type-B Standard Filters preparation
    • 6th SF measurements were done ?
    • Shipped the SF for BS to Mitaka.
    • Ship the measured SFs to Kamioka at an apropriate time
  • Type-A SF preparation
    • Needs to cut more finshing rod blades -> ATC is working on it now.

  • The next Type-A meeting will be on 5/26.
  • Simultion (Okutomi)
  • #Local sensors for BF

Type-Bp modification

  • Modification for bKAGRA
    • wiki
    • Discussing with Saito-san of ATC
      • Specified what can be modified
      • Asked to fix the EQ stop to the traverser
    • Asked Fujii-kun to work on the noise requirements for the BF sensor/actuator
    • Still waiting for the LVDT design from Virgo
    • Full CAD model of the original Type-Bp needs to be created

Site work plan for the next week

  • Mon:
  • Tue:
  • Wed:
  • Thu:
  • Fri:

Travel Plans

  • Travel (Week of 5/30)
    • Takahashi:
    • Shoda:
    • Mark:
    • Fabian:
    • Okutomi:
    • Fujii:
    • Ishizaki:
    • Hirata:
    • Ohishi:
    • Sato:
  • Travel (Week of 6/6):
    • Takahashi:
    • Shoda:
    • Mark:
    • Fabian:
    • Okutomi:
    • Fujii:
    • Ishizaki:
    • Hirata:
    • Ohishi:

Mark is away: July 8-20

Other

  • Safety:no incident

  • #GAS blade inspection by Virgo (Takahashi)
    • Shipped the blades. Will get results in 1-2 months.

Next meeting

2016/6/3(Fri) 13:30 -

Next VIS F2F 6/10 ?

KAGRA/Subgroups/VIS/VISMinutes20160527 (last edited 2016-05-28 15:09:32 by MarkBarton)