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== Minutes ==
 * bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics

== Adgenda ==
 * bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
  * HOM structure / LSC / ASC check [Michimura]
   * initiated Optickle 2 modeling: [[https://granite.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/trac/LCGT/browser/trunk/mif/KAGRAOptickle/bKAGRAPhase1/|KAGRAOptickle SVN]] (login required)
   * Optickle (Optickle2) seminar on July 1
   * length sensing matrix is OK
  * continue checking dummy ETM availability [Hirose]
   * cost estimate arrived
  * check if reference spheres for PR mirrors are available at Caltech [Hirose]
  * check if IMC length stability and others are compatible with 3-km PRMI [Michimura]
  * check if dummy payload is quiet enough to make PRMI [Michimura]

 * bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5274|JGW-T1605274]]
  * discussed at Extended Chief Meeting on July 4

 * bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics ([[KAGRA/Subgroups/MIF/AEL|Analog Electronics for ISC]]) [Michimura]
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   * '''decide if we need 1st stage amp or not [Michimura]'''
  * remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC
   * '''we have to decide if we need 1st stage amp or not'''
  * remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC [Michimura->Niigata students?]
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  * RF Distribution Amplifier    * in the process of ordering 4-way splitter
  * RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?]
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   * in the process of ordering RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-10-23-CK or LNBA-11-23-CK)
   * in the process of ordering RF splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+)
   * basically copy of [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-D1000124/public|LIGO-D1000124]], but we will omit [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-D1000064/public|Interface]] for the first stage
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 * RF generation scheme
  * be careful of harmonics generator generating unwanted harmonics
 * OFI telecon summary
  * calculation by Somiya show single pendulum is enough for OFI and OMC
  * but we need cross check -> Somiya, Hiro
  * RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]

 * RF generation scheme [Michimura]
  * f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
  * we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
  * use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz)
   * seeking for vendors

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 * Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
  * aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
  * aLIGO viewport is always closed
  * if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon
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== Adgenda ==
 * bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
  * HOM structure / LSC / ASC check [Michimura]
   * initiated Optickle 2 modeling: [[https://granite.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/trac/LCGT/browser/trunk/mif/KAGRAOptickle/bKAGRAPhase1/|KAGRAOptickle SVN]] (login required)
   * Optickle (Optickle2) seminar on July 1 [[http://densuke.biz/list?cd=bNJ9WSPSEQNxheCy|densuke]]
    * announced to Toyama and Niigata students
   * length sensing matrix is OK
  * continue checking dummy ETM availability [Hirose]
   * cost estimate arrived
  * check if reference spheres for PR mirrors are available at Caltech [Hirose]
  * check if IMC length stability and others are compatible with 3-km PRMI [Michimura]
  * check if dummy payload is quiet enough to make PRMI [Michimura]
 * bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5274|JGW-T1605274]]
  * we actually had only two months for room temperature PRMI with dummy payload
   * PR mirrors will be ready by the end of 2017.7 (BS ready by the end of 2017.3)
  * what should we do?
   * initial alignment to both ends before cryopayload is ready (2017.8-9)
   * PR-ETMX cavity during two months of ETMY cryopayload installation?
    * can we do ASC with such a low finesse?
    * PAB said we should do ETMY installation first (since Xend is dangerous)
   * PRM-PR2-PR3 cavity? -> unstable
  * possibility of installing cryopayload earlier is being discussed [Ando, Saito, CRYp]
 * bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics request for AEL ([[KAGRA/Subgroups/MIF/AEL|Analog Electronics for ISC]]) [Michimura]
  * request for AEL [Michimura]
  * Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue [AEL]
  * remake IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC temporarily for IMC WFS by 2016.10
   * confirmed with Miyakawa that AEL will take care
  * assemble RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?]
   * MIF will take care of assembling and purchasing with AEL budget
   * in the process of ordering RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-10-23-CK or LNBA-11-23-CK)
   * in the process of ordering RF splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+)
   * basically copy of [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-D1000124/public|LIGO-D1000124]], but we might omit [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-D1000064/public|Interface]]
  * RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]
 * RF generation scheme [Michimura]
  * f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
  * we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
  * use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz)?
  * use multiple signal generators with frequency doubler and differential frequency generator?
 * Summary of OFI telecon on June 24 [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5313|JGW-G1605313]] [Somiya]
  * reduce number of output steering mirrors (OSM) from two to one
  * move OFI postion to be between OMMT2 and OSM
  * suspend OMC and IFI both by single pendula
 * Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
  * aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
  * aLIGO viewport is always closed
  * '''if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon'''
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 * bKAGRA optical layout around PRC [Aso]
  * POY beam is clipped by PR3 optical bench suspension wire [[https://www.dropbox.com/s/4jio2tlmlavoffr/bKAGRA_wframes160621.dxf?dl=0|CAD drawing by Shoda]]
  * [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5261|JGW-T1605261]] (cartoon)
 * iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
  * [[http://klog.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/osl/?r=1767|klog #1767]]
  * mysterious LPF was probably from saturation (is this end of the story?)
  * Miyo-kun did time delay fitting: [[https://nbviewer.jupyter.org/urls/dl.dropbox.com/s/e7tj2xvc8krdo2w/Post-Run%20MICH%20Calibration.ipynb|Jupyter Notebook]], [[https://www.dropbox.com/sh/alk6mothy435dis/AABeRhaV6RRZ1CfUqnq6bc7ua?dl=0|Files in Dropbox]]
 * Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
  * if watchdog resistance noise should be less than DAC noise, dR < 6e-8 Ohm/rtHz (High Power Coil Driver case), dR < 5e-6 Ohm/rtHz (Low Power Coil Driver case), both at 10 Hz
  * too meet actuator noise requirement, dR < 8e-5 Ohm/rtHz (for BS/SRs), dR < 6e-5 Ohm/rtHz (for PRs), both at 10 Hz
  * watchdog resistance fluctuation was measured to be dR < ~1e-6 Ohm (measurement noise limited) ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5270|JGW-E1605270]])
  * see, also, [[KAGRA/Subgroups/VIS/VISMinutes20160603|VISMinutes20160603]]
 * Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]

ISC Meeting on 2016/7/25 14:00 - 15:00

eZuce:

Participants:

Adgenda

  • bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
    • HOM structure / LSC / ASC check [Michimura]
      • initiated Optickle 2 modeling: KAGRAOptickle SVN (login required)

      • Optickle (Optickle2) seminar on July 1
      • length sensing matrix is OK
    • continue checking dummy ETM availability [Hirose]
      • cost estimate arrived
    • check if reference spheres for PR mirrors are available at Caltech [Hirose]
    • check if IMC length stability and others are compatible with 3-km PRMI [Michimura]
    • check if dummy payload is quiet enough to make PRMI [Michimura]
  • bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: JGW-T1605274

    • discussed at Extended Chief Meeting on July 4
  • bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics (Analog Electronics for ISC) [Michimura]

    • Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
      • 1st stage amp is heating up
      • we have to decide if we need 1st stage amp or not

    • remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC [Michimura->Niigata students?]

      • MIF will take care istead of AEL
      • mass production will be taken care by AEL
      • in the process of ordering 4-way splitter
    • RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?]

      • we will omit RF monitor for now, and add them later
      • in the process of ordering RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-10-23-CK or LNBA-11-23-CK)
      • in the process of ordering RF splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+)
      • basically copy of LIGO-D1000124, but we will omit Interface for the first stage

      • ask LIGO people for necessity of RF monitor [Michimura]

    • RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]

  • RF generation scheme [Michimura]
    • f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
    • we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
    • use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz)
      • seeking for vendors


  • bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
    • POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
    • we need layout CAD for POY pickoff mirror, POP pickoff mirror to design baffles
      • talk with Kawamura who to assign [Michimura]

      • possibility of buying baffles next FY? -> ask SEO [Aso]

  • iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
    • mysterious LPF was from saturation
    • write an elog about this conclusion [Aso]

  • Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
    • recent result show dR < 1e-7 Ohm/rtHz, so it may meet the requirement

    • slow (~20 min) drift at dR ~ 5e-4 Ohm -> this should be negligible

  • Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
    • aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
    • aLIGO viewport is always closed
    • if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon

  • BS baffle could make contract defect? (LIGO-T1000090) [Akutsu,Hiro]

  • bKAGRA ISC cabling [Michimura/Doi]
    • Doi-san said he will help.
  • Mirror absorption measurement status [Hirose]
  • Output optics status [Somiya]
    • suspensions for OMMT1/2 is same as IMMT1/2, ask Takahashi-san to add drivers to his list: JGW-L1605193

    • we have to make vacuum compatible PD/QPD for OMC by 2018.3
    • beam shutter: prototype done, AR coating and driver circuit design not yet
  • Magnetic noise, actuator noise calculation for cryogenic payload [Michimura]
  • Task list update (TaskList) [Michimura]

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