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Participants: Participants:Enomoto, Nagano, Hirose, H. Yamamoto, Arai, Aso, Kokeyama
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== Adgenda ==
== Agenda ==
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  * Enomoto, Nagano (ICRR), Komori, Aritomi, Shimoda (UT), Kasuya (Titech), Kagawa, Chen, Kumagaya, Sugawara (Niigata) attended
  * [[https://granite.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/trac/LCGT/browser/trunk/mif/KAGRAOptickle/Examples|Example codes]]
    * Enomoto, Nagano (ICRR), Komori, Aritomi, Shimoda (UT), Kasuya (Titech), Kagawa, Chen, Kumagaya, Sugawara (Niigata) attended
    * [[https://granite.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/trac/LCGT/browser/trunk/mif/KAGRAOptickle/Examples|Example codes]]
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    * move PR2/PR3 by 1.18 cm to shorten PR2-PR3 length and stabilize PRMI ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5362|JGW-T1605362]])     * move PR2/PR3 each by 1.18 cm to shorten PR2-PR3 length and stabilize PRMI ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5362|JGW-T1605362]])
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  * continue checking dummy ETM availability [Hirose]
   * cost estimate arrived
    * Comments
     * Feedback topology. Change which mirror to feedback depending on the frequency ?
     * Using DC signals for TMs may not be good from the view point of noise.
     * How to measure the precise distance between PR2-PR3 ?
     * How to de-couple the distance error and ROC errors ?
     * bKAGRA phase 1 ASC is a good practice for bKAGRA
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  * check if dummy payload is quiet enough to make PRMI [Michimura]   * --(continue checking dummy ETM availability [Hirose])--
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check if dummy payload is quiet enough to make PRMI [Michimura])--
   * no more dummy ETM plan (decided on Chief meeting 2016.7.19)
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  * discussed at Extended Chief Meeting on July 4
   * beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan
  * discussed at Extended Chief Meeting on July 4 ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5352|JGW-G1605352]])
   * beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning
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   * '''make MS project schedule by July 15 [Michimura]'''    * CRYp agreed on installing ETMY earlier by two months (ETMY CRYp: 2017.8-9, ETMX CRYp: 2017.12-2018.1)
    * use 2017.10-11 to test PR-ETMY and ETMY cooling
     * '''negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule'''
   * make MS project schedule by July 15 [Michimura] -> DONE [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5401|JGW-M1605401]]
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  * remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC [Michimura->Niigata students?]   * remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]
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   * ordered 4-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZFSC-4-1-S+) to M-RF [Michimura]
  * RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?]
   * 4-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZFSC-4-1-S+) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft
  * RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]
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   * '''where did front/rear panels go?'''
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   * ordered 8-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+), coupler (Mini-Circuits ZX30-20-4) to M-RF [Michimura]    * 8-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+), coupler (Mini-Circuits ZX30-20-4) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft
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  * use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz)   * use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz (FSR for IMC))
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  * '''sideband frequency for IMC? (should be determined before EOM production; by the end of 2016.8)'''
   * f2/8*2.45 = 13.78 MHz for IMC anti-resonance?
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  * ALS Meeting on July 27 ([[KAGRA/subgroup/ifo/MIF/Minutes20160727|Adgenda page]])
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  * ask Akutsu and Hiro   * ask Akutsu and Hiro

ISC Meeting on 2016/7/25 14:00 - 15:00

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Participants:Enomoto, Nagano, Hirose, H. Yamamoto, Arai, Aso, Kokeyama

Agenda

  • bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
    • HOM structure / LSC / ASC check [Michimura]
      • initiated Optickle 2 modeling: KAGRAOptickle SVN (login required)

      • Optickle (Optickle2) seminar on July 1
        • Enomoto, Nagano (ICRR), Komori, Aritomi, Shimoda (UT), Kasuya (Titech), Kagawa, Chen, Kumagaya, Sugawara (Niigata) attended
        • Example codes

      • length sensing matrix is OK
      • HOM structure check to decide PR2-PR3 length
        • move PR2/PR3 each by 1.18 cm to shorten PR2-PR3 length and stabilize PRMI (JGW-T1605362)

        • check if we can move 1.18 cm [Shoda->ATC]

      • ASC check [Enomoto] (JGW-T1605362)

        • ASC is feasible
        • we need AS port to diagonalize ETM DIFF and BS signals
        • Comments
          • Feedback topology. Change which mirror to feedback depending on the frequency ?
          • Using DC signals for TMs may not be good from the view point of noise.
          • How to measure the precise distance between PR2-PR3 ?
          • How to de-couple the distance error and ROC errors ?
          • bKAGRA phase 1 ASC is a good practice for bKAGRA
    • check if reference spheres for PR mirrors are available at Caltech [Hirose]
    • check if IMC length stability and others are compatible with 3-km PRMI [Michimura]
    • continue checking dummy ETM availability [Hirose]

    • check if dummy payload is quiet enough to make PRMI [Michimura]

      • no more dummy ETM plan (decided on Chief meeting 2016.7.19)
  • bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: JGW-T1605274

    • discussed at Extended Chief Meeting on July 4 (JGW-G1605352)

      • beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning
      • how to extract AS beam should be fixed by MIF
      • CRYp agreed on installing ETMY earlier by two months (ETMY CRYp: 2017.8-9, ETMX CRYp: 2017.12-2018.1)
        • use 2017.10-11 to test PR-ETMY and ETMY cooling
          • negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule

      • make MS project schedule by July 15 [Michimura] -> DONE JGW-M1605401

  • bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics (Analog Electronics for ISC) [Michimura]

    • Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
      • 1st stage amp is heating up
      • we have to decide if we need 1st stage amp or not

    • remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]

      • MIF will take care istead of AEL
      • mass production will be taken care by AEL
      • 4-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZFSC-4-1-S+) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft

    • RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]

      • we will omit RF monitor for now, and add them later
      • where did front/rear panels go?

      • in the process of ordering RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-11-23-CK-100-15)
      • 8-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+), coupler (Mini-Circuits ZX30-20-4) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft

      • basically copy of LIGO-D1000124, but we will omit Interface for the first stage

      • ask LIGO people for necessity of RF monitor [Michimura]
        • RF monitor was used in aLIGO for noise hunting and IFO health check (input from Izumi)
      • we have to request AEL to make interface board

    • RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]

  • RF generation scheme [Michimura]
    • f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
    • we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
    • use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz (FSR for IMC))
      • seeking for vendors
    • sideband frequency for IMC? (should be determined before EOM production; by the end of 2016.8)

      • f2/8*2.45 = 13.78 MHz for IMC anti-resonance?


  • Arm Length Stabilization plan (JGW-T1605353)

    • we have to decide the concept before experiment at University of Toyama
    • ALS Meeting on July 27 (Adgenda page)

  • bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
    • POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
    • we need layout CAD for POY pickoff mirror, POP pickoff mirror to design baffles
      • possibility of buying baffles next FY? -> ask SEO [Aso]

      • ask SEO to hire a person dedicated for optical CAD
      • layout CAD will be prepared by each subgroup for the time being
  • iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
    • mysterious LPF was from saturation
    • write an elog about this conclusion [Aso]

  • Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
    • recent result show dR < 1e-7 Ohm/rtHz, so it may meet the requirement

    • slow (~20 min) drift at dR ~ 5e-4 Ohm -> this should be negligible

  • Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
    • aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
    • aLIGO viewport is always closed
    • if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon

  • BS baffle could make contract defect? (LIGO-T1000090)

    • ask Akutsu and Hiro
    • BS has 370 mm dia and beam at BS is 2*36 mm dia. So, it should be in principle OK. But recoil mass aperture should be considered.
  • bKAGRA ISC cabling [Michimura/Doi]
    • Doi-san said he will help.
  • Mirror absorption measurement status [Hirose]
  • Output optics status [Somiya]
    • suspensions for OMMT1/2 is same as IMMT1/2, ask Takahashi-san to add drivers to his list: JGW-L1605193

    • we have to make vacuum compatible PD/QPD for OMC by 2018.3
    • beam shutter: prototype done, AR coating and driver circuit design not yet
    • OMC suspension requirement cross check [Somiya]

  • Magnetic noise, actuator noise calculation for cryogenic payload [Michimura]
    • Ask Tomaru about the parameters and actuator design, range

  • Task list update (TaskList) [Michimura]

Next meeting

2016/8/8 14:00 - 15:00

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