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= ISC Meeting on 2016/8/8 14:00 - 15:00 = | = ISC Meeting on 2016/8/22 14:00 - 15:00 = |
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Participants: | Participants: Michimura, Aso, Enomoto, Arai, Kambara, Akutsu, Hirose === Next meeting === 2016/9/5 14:00 - 15:00 |
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== Minutes == * bKAGRA Phase 1 HOM structure / ASC [Enomoto] ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5362|JGW-T1605362]]) * decided to move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm -> confirm with Shoda-san again [Michimura] * even if we move by 1.20 cm, PRMI is still unstable in worst RoC error case * effect on WFS from RF HOMs should be [who?] * feedback topology and noise study should be done [Enomoto?] * Noise``Budget for Arm Length Stabilization [Kambara] ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5485|JGW-L1605485]]) * results agreed with Tatsumi Simulink model * include fiber noise (fiber setup is different from Tatsumi model) * include phase noise from mirror vibration for IR beat setup (it is one of the limiting noise source for aLIGO) * schedule and plan for the procurement of circuits (by UToyama or AEL?) should be fixed soon * IMC sideband frequency [Michimura] * f2/8*2.45 = 13.78 MHz plan was explained briefly * we will decide on the next meeting |
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* we found mistake in the HOM structure check code * PR2-PR3 length re-calculation ongoing * we can move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm at max [Shoda,ATC] * Comments * Feedback topology. Change which mirror to feedback depending on the frequency? * Using DC signals for TMs may not be good from the view point of noise. * How to measure the precise distance between PR2-PR3? * How to de-couple the distance error and ROC errors? |
* decided to move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm -> confirm with Shoda again [Michimura] * Shoda said 1.20 cm is OK * Now the question is how long does it take to adjust it again -> asking Shoda * even if we move by 1.20 cm, PRMI is still unstable in worst RoC error case * effect on WFS from RF HOMs should be [who?] * feedback topology and noise study should be done [Enomoto?] * how to measure the g-factor? PRMI cavity scan possible? * need to make beam profiling plan [Enomoto] |
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* discussed at Extended Chief Meeting on July 4 ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5352|JGW-G1605352]]) * beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning * how to extract AS beam should be fixed by MIF * CRYp agreed on installing ETMY earlier by two months (ETMY CRYp: 2017.8-9, ETMX CRYp: 2017.12-2018.1) * use 2017.10-11 to test PR-ETMY and ETMY cooling * '''negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule''' |
* beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning * not only PR2-PR3 but also IMMT1-IMMT2 * how to extract AS beam should be fixed by MIF * CRYp agreed on installing ETMY earlier by two months (ETMY CRYp: 2017.8-9, ETMX CRYp: 2017.12-2018.1) * use 2017.10-11 to test PR-ETMY and ETMY cooling * '''negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule''' |
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* '''where did front/rear panels go?''' | * '''where did front/rear panels go?''' -> look for them on Aug 24 [Nakano] |
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* outsource? | * one by one by hand is tough; outsource? * Requested to AEL; meeting with Miyakawa on Aug 24 [Michimura] * Quad IQ Demodulator LSC [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5487|JGW-T1605487]] * Quad IQ Demodulator ASC [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5488|JGW-T1605488]] * High Power Coil Driver [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5489|JGW-T1605489]] * RF Distribution Amplifier [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5490|JGW-T1605490]] * Common Mode Servo Board [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5491|JGW-T1605491]] * Frequency Doubler [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5492|JGW-T1605492]] * Output optical tables [Michimura] ([[KAGRA/Subgroups/IOO/OutputTables|OutputTables wiki]]) * '''Kawamura suggested to move this task from IOO to MIF''' * Is it acceptable? |
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* f2/8*2.45 = 13.78 MHz for IMC anti-resonance? | * f2/8*2.45 = 13.78 MHz for IMC anti-resonance? ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5493|JGW-T1605493]]) |
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* ALS Meeting on July 27 ([[KAGRA/subgroup/ifo/MIF/Minutes20160727|Minutes page]]) * agreed that the default plan is to use Tatsumi et al. configuration and to put AUX lasers at PSL table in the clean booth * noise study [Kambara](boot camp on August 1-5 at Hongo) * started with reproducing Tatsumi model ([[https://granite.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/trac/LCGT/browser/trunk/kagranoisebudget/GreenLock|GreenLock NoiseBudget SVN]]) * Tasumi Simulink model and Kambara Noise``Budget model basically agreed ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5485|JGW-L1605485]]) |
* Noise``Budget [Kambara] * results agreed with Tatsumi Simulink model * include fiber noise (fiber setup is different from Tatsumi model) * include phase noise from mirror vibration for IR beat setup (it is one of the limiting noise source for aLIGO) * schedule and plan for the procurement of circuits should be fixed soon * keep in touch with AEL group |
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* Doi-san said he will help. | * need to announce to IOO,ISC mailing list; e-mailed to Doi-san for go sign |
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== Next meeting == 2016/8/22 14:00 - 15:00 |
ISC Meeting on 2016/8/22 14:00 - 15:00
eZuce:
Participants: Michimura, Aso, Enomoto, Arai, Kambara, Akutsu, Hirose
Next meeting
2016/9/5 14:00 - 15:00
Agenda
- bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
HOM structure / ASC check [Enomoto] (JGW-T1605362)
decided to move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm -> confirm with Shoda again [Michimura]
- Shoda said 1.20 cm is OK
Now the question is how long does it take to adjust it again -> asking Shoda
- even if we move by 1.20 cm, PRMI is still unstable in worst RoC error case
- effect on WFS from RF HOMs should be [who?]
- feedback topology and noise study should be done [Enomoto?]
- how to measure the g-factor? PRMI cavity scan possible?
- need to make beam profiling plan [Enomoto]
- check if reference spheres for PR mirrors are available at Caltech [Hirose]
- check if IMC length stability and others are compatible with 3-km PRMI [Michimura]
bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: JGW-T1605274
- beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning
- not only PR2-PR3 but also IMMT1-IMMT2
- how to extract AS beam should be fixed by MIF
- CRYp agreed on installing ETMY earlier by two months (ETMY CRYp: 2017.8-9, ETMX CRYp: 2017.12-2018.1)
- use 2017.10-11 to test PR-ETMY and ETMY cooling
negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule
- use 2017.10-11 to test PR-ETMY and ETMY cooling
- beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning
bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics (Analog Electronics for ISC) [Michimura]
- Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
- 1st stage amp is heating up
we have to decide if we need 1st stage amp or not
remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]
- MIF will take care istead of AEL
- mass production will be taken care by AEL
4-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZFSC-4-1-S+) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft
RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]
- we will omit RF monitor for now, and add them later
where did front/rear panels go? -> look for them on Aug 24 [Nakano]
- ordered RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-11-23-CK-100-15)
8-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+), coupler (Mini-Circuits ZX30-20-4) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft
basically copy of LIGO-D1000124, but we will omit Interface for the first stage
- ask LIGO people for necessity of RF monitor [Michimura]
- RF monitor was used in aLIGO for noise hunting and IFO health check (input from Izumi)
we have to request AEL to make interface board
RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]
- one by one by hand is tough; outsource?
- Requested to AEL; meeting with Miyakawa on Aug 24 [Michimura]
Quad IQ Demodulator LSC JGW-T1605487
Quad IQ Demodulator ASC JGW-T1605488
High Power Coil Driver JGW-T1605489
RF Distribution Amplifier JGW-T1605490
Common Mode Servo Board JGW-T1605491
Frequency Doubler JGW-T1605492
- Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
Output optical tables [Michimura] (OutputTables wiki)
Kawamura suggested to move this task from IOO to MIF
- Is it acceptable?
- RF generation scheme [Michimura]
- f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
- we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
- use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz (FSR for IMC))
- seeking for vendors
sideband frequency for IMC? (should be determined before EOM production; by the end of 2016.8)
f2/8*2.45 = 13.78 MHz for IMC anti-resonance? (JGW-T1605493)
Arm Length Stabilization plan (JGW-T1605353)
NoiseBudget [Kambara]
- results agreed with Tatsumi Simulink model
- include fiber noise (fiber setup is different from Tatsumi model)
- include phase noise from mirror vibration for IR beat setup (it is one of the limiting noise source for aLIGO)
- schedule and plan for the procurement of circuits should be fixed soon
- keep in touch with AEL group
- bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
- POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
- we need layout CAD for POY pickoff mirror, POP pickoff mirror to design baffles
possibility of buying baffles next FY? -> ask SEO [Aso]
- ask SEO to hire a person dedicated for optical CAD
- layout CAD will be prepared by each subgroup for the time being
- iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
- mysterious LPF was from saturation
write an elog about this conclusion [Aso]
- Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
recent result show dR < 1e-7 Ohm/rtHz, so it may meet the requirement
slow (~20 min) drift at dR ~ 5e-4 Ohm -> this should be negligible
- Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
- aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
- aLIGO viewport is always closed
if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon
BS baffle could make contract defect? (LIGO-T1000090)
- ask Akutsu and Hiro
- BS has 370 mm dia and beam at BS is 2*36 mm dia. So, it should be in principle OK. But recoil mass aperture should be considered.
- bKAGRA ISC cabling [Michimura/Doi]
- need to announce to IOO,ISC mailing list; e-mailed to Doi-san for go sign
- Mirror absorption measurement status [Hirose]
- Output optics status [Somiya]
suspensions for OMMT1/2 is same as IMMT1/2 (driver list for now: JGW-L1605334)
- we have to make vacuum compatible PD/QPD for OMC by 2018.3
- beam shutter: prototype done, AR coating and driver circuit design not yet
OMC suspension requirement cross check [Somiya]
- Magnetic noise, actuator noise calculation for cryogenic payload [Michimura]
Ask Tomaru about the parameters and actuator design, range
Task list update (TaskList) [Michimura]