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= ISC Meeting on 2016/8/22 14:00 - 15:00 = Participants: Michimura, Aso, Enomoto, Arai, Kambara, Moriwaki, Akutsu, Hirose, (Kawamura) |
= ISC Meeting on 2016/9/5 14:00 - 15:00 = Participants: |
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== Minutes == * bKAGRA Phase 1 TMS/mode measurement [Enomoto] * by measuring the beam radius at ETM, g-factor can be measured within precision of ~0.09; not enough * more precise measurement can be done using transfer function measurement with injected sidebands trough IMC (see [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-G080467|LIGO-G080467]]) * consider using this technique * it takes only few minutes to adjust PR2-3 length (even in vacuum) [Aso] -> confirm with Shoda again [Michimura] * bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics [Michimura] * MIF agreed on recent electronics request to AEL * Output Optics Table [Michimura] * MIF group agreed to move this task from IOO to MIF * needs agreement from IOO group and then from SEO * safety issue on 2 W beam exposure in air should be discussed * RF generation scheme [Michimura] * IMC sideband frequency ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5493|JGW-T1605493]]) * MIF agreed to use f2/8*2.45 = 13.78 MHz for IMC sideband * needs agreement from IOO group also * may be IMC sideband (and ALS sidebands) should also needs to be phase locked with f1/f2/f3 to avoid "whistling noise" * it could be easily done with N5181A, but maybe not with VCXO(OCXO?) to be used in the future * Noise``Budget for green lock [Kambara] * fiber noise was added (see [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-T0900376|LIGO-T0900376]]) * Prometheus laser noise was updated to use spec from Coherent * real SHG noise is not available yet -> ask Kawabe/Izumi [Kambara] * Updates from MIR group [Hirose] * availability on reference spheres for PR mirrors will be checked this week at Caltech * AR aperture is 204 mm dia for sapphire mirror * this size is tolerable considering 35.3 mm beam radius on ITM/ETM and 2.7 sigma (1 ppm loss) * aperture of recoil mass should also be checked [Michiura->Tomaru] * aperture was 191 mm dia (from Ushiba) |
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* decided to move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm -> confirm with Shoda again [Michimura] * Shoda said 1.20 cm is OK * Now the question is how long does it take to adjust it again -> asking Shoda * even if we move by 1.20 cm, PRMI is still unstable in worst RoC error case * effect on WFS from RF HOMs should be [who?] * feedback topology and noise study should be done [Enomoto?] * how to measure the g-factor? PRMI cavity scan possible? * need to make beam profiling plan [Enomoto] |
* decided to move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm * this is possible even in vacuum [Shoda confirmed] * adjustment takes only few minutes * precise TMS measurement can be done using transfer function measurement with injected sidebands trough IMC (see [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-G080467|LIGO-G080467]]) * consider using this technique * cryopayload installation finish on Feb 2, 2018 and cool down start on Feb 19 * could be tough to do TMS tuning considering schedule * effect on WFS from RF HOMs should be simulated [who?] * feedback topology and noise study should be done [who?] |
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* 9.0m (CC), 11.5m (CC), 6.5m (CC), 5.0m (CC), 34m (CX), 36m (CX) were available * PR2/SR2 is -3.0764m/-2.9872m and PR3/SR3 is 24.9165m. Maybe 5.0m TS can be used for PR2/SR2. * what about PR3/SR3, PRM/SRM? |
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* summary of Phase 1 study [Michimura] ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5595|JGW-T1605595]]) | |
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* CRYp agreed on installing ETMY earlier by two months (ETMY CRYp: 2017.8-9, ETMX CRYp: 2017.12-2018.1) * use 2017.10-11 to test PR-ETMY and ETMY cooling * '''negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule''' |
* according to CRYp current schedule; * Nov 1, 2017: ETMY CRYp installation done * Nov 21, 2017: ETMY cool down starts * Feb 2, 2018: ETMX CRYp installation done * Feb 19, 2018: ETMY cool down starts * we need more time for PR-ETMY cavity * '''negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule''' * initial alignment plan including green is taken cared by MIF [confirmed with Kawamura, Moriwaki on Aug 30] |
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* '''where did front/rear panels go?''' -> look for them on Aug 24 [Nakano] | * Nakano found front/rear panels -> Mozumi office loft |
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* ordered cables and connectors to assemble one chassis by hand [Kokeyama,Michimura] | |
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* '''we have to request AEL to make interface board''' | * asked AEL to make RF amplifier interface board (which is also used for Frequency Doubler) [Michimura] |
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* Requested to AEL; meeting with Miyakawa on Aug 24 [Michimura] * Quad IQ Demodulator LSC [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5487|JGW-T1605487]] * Quad IQ Demodulator ASC [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5488|JGW-T1605488]] * High Power Coil Driver [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5489|JGW-T1605489]] * RF Distribution Amplifier [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5490|JGW-T1605490]] * Common Mode Servo Board [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5491|JGW-T1605491]] * Frequency Doubler [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5492|JGW-T1605492]] |
* Electronics request meeting with Miyakawa/Kamiizumi on Aug 24 * 4 chasses of Quad IQ Demodulator ASC by July 2017 might be tough, but all the others are OK * Quad IQ Demodulator ASC is not so high priority anyway (compared with coil drivers for VIS) * Rear panels of RF Distribution Amplifier will be updated for RF monitor * we might have to help them with ordering RF components * photos of the assembled chassis are helpful for AEL * does anyone have a photo of Frequeny Doubler? [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-D1002178/public|LIGO-D1002178]] |
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* Is it acceptable? | * vacuum optics to extract beams for each port (except for REFL and AS DC) and related beam shutters will also be MIF task * MIF and IOO agreed, waiting for SEO to agree |
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* '''sideband frequency for IMC? (should be determined before EOM production; by the end of 2016.8)''' * f2/8*2.45 = 13.78 MHz for IMC anti-resonance? ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5493|JGW-T1605493]]) |
* MIF and IOO agreed to use 13.78 MHz (~= f2/8*2.45) for IMC sideband ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5493|JGW-T1605493]]) * sent email to Uehara; he is already tuning the resonance close to this value * may be IMC sideband (and ALS sidebands) should also needs to be phase locked with f1/f2/f3 to avoid "whistling noise" * how to decide ALS sideband frequencies? [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5626|JGW-T1605626]] |
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----- * Aperture of sapphire test mass * AR aperture is 204 mm dia for sapphire mirror * this size is tolerable considering 35.3 mm beam radius on ITM/ETM and 2.7 sigma (1 ppm loss) * Recoil mass aperture is 191 mm at min for HR side, 188 mm at min for AR(coil) side * is this OK? * what is the requirement for the recoil mass miscentering with respect to test mass center? |
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ISC Meeting on 2016/9/5 14:00 - 15:00
Participants:
Next meeting
2016/9/5 14:00 - 15:00
Agenda
- bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
HOM structure / ASC check [Enomoto] (JGW-T1605362)
- decided to move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm
- this is possible even in vacuum [Shoda confirmed]
- adjustment takes only few minutes
precise TMS measurement can be done using transfer function measurement with injected sidebands trough IMC (see LIGO-G080467)
- consider using this technique
- cryopayload installation finish on Feb 2, 2018 and cool down start on Feb 19
- could be tough to do TMS tuning considering schedule
- effect on WFS from RF HOMs should be simulated [who?]
- feedback topology and noise study should be done [who?]
- decided to move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm
- check if reference spheres for PR mirrors are available at Caltech [Hirose]
- 9.0m (CC), 11.5m (CC), 6.5m (CC), 5.0m (CC), 34m (CX), 36m (CX) were available
- PR2/SR2 is -3.0764m/-2.9872m and PR3/SR3 is 24.9165m. Maybe 5.0m TS can be used for PR2/SR2.
- what about PR3/SR3, PRM/SRM?
- check if IMC length stability and others are compatible with 3-km PRMI [Michimura]
summary of Phase 1 study [Michimura] (JGW-T1605595)
bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: JGW-T1605274
- beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning
- not only PR2-PR3 but also IMMT1-IMMT2
- how to extract AS beam should be fixed by MIF
- according to CRYp current schedule;
- Nov 1, 2017: ETMY CRYp installation done
- Nov 21, 2017: ETMY cool down starts
- Feb 2, 2018: ETMX CRYp installation done
- Feb 19, 2018: ETMY cool down starts
- we need more time for PR-ETMY cavity
negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule
- initial alignment plan including green is taken cared by MIF [confirmed with Kawamura, Moriwaki on Aug 30]
- beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning
bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics (Analog Electronics for ISC) [Michimura]
- Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
- 1st stage amp is heating up
we have to decide if we need 1st stage amp or not
remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]
- MIF will take care istead of AEL
- mass production will be taken care by AEL
4-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZFSC-4-1-S+) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft
RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]
- we will omit RF monitor for now, and add them later
Nakano found front/rear panels -> Mozumi office loft
- ordered RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-11-23-CK-100-15)
8-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+), coupler (Mini-Circuits ZX30-20-4) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft
- ordered cables and connectors to assemble one chassis by hand [Kokeyama,Michimura]
basically copy of LIGO-D1000124, but we will omit Interface for the first stage
- ask LIGO people for necessity of RF monitor [Michimura]
- RF monitor was used in aLIGO for noise hunting and IFO health check (input from Izumi)
- asked AEL to make RF amplifier interface board (which is also used for Frequency Doubler) [Michimura]
RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]
- one by one by hand is tough; outsource?
- Electronics request meeting with Miyakawa/Kamiizumi on Aug 24
- 4 chasses of Quad IQ Demodulator ASC by July 2017 might be tough, but all the others are OK
- Quad IQ Demodulator ASC is not so high priority anyway (compared with coil drivers for VIS)
- Rear panels of RF Distribution Amplifier will be updated for RF monitor
- we might have to help them with ordering RF components
- photos of the assembled chassis are helpful for AEL
does anyone have a photo of Frequeny Doubler? LIGO-D1002178
- Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
Output optical tables [Michimura] (OutputTables wiki)
Kawamura suggested to move this task from IOO to MIF
- vacuum optics to extract beams for each port (except for REFL and AS DC) and related beam shutters will also be MIF task
- MIF and IOO agreed, waiting for SEO to agree
- RF generation scheme [Michimura]
- f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
- we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
- use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz (FSR for IMC))
- seeking for vendors
MIF and IOO agreed to use 13.78 MHz (~= f2/8*2.45) for IMC sideband (JGW-T1605493)
- sent email to Uehara; he is already tuning the resonance close to this value
- may be IMC sideband (and ALS sidebands) should also needs to be phase locked with f1/f2/f3 to avoid "whistling noise"
how to decide ALS sideband frequencies? JGW-T1605626
Arm Length Stabilization plan (JGW-T1605353)
NoiseBudget [Kambara]
- results agreed with Tatsumi Simulink model
- include fiber noise (fiber setup is different from Tatsumi model)
- include phase noise from mirror vibration for IR beat setup (it is one of the limiting noise source for aLIGO)
- schedule and plan for the procurement of circuits should be fixed soon
- keep in touch with AEL group
- Aperture of sapphire test mass
- AR aperture is 204 mm dia for sapphire mirror
- this size is tolerable considering 35.3 mm beam radius on ITM/ETM and 2.7 sigma (1 ppm loss)
- Recoil mass aperture is 191 mm at min for HR side, 188 mm at min for AR(coil) side
- is this OK?
- what is the requirement for the recoil mass miscentering with respect to test mass center?
- AR aperture is 204 mm dia for sapphire mirror
- bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
- POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
- we need layout CAD for POY pickoff mirror, POP pickoff mirror to design baffles
possibility of buying baffles next FY? -> ask SEO [Aso]
- ask SEO to hire a person dedicated for optical CAD
- layout CAD will be prepared by each subgroup for the time being
- iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
- mysterious LPF was from saturation
write an elog about this conclusion [Aso]
- Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
recent result show dR < 1e-7 Ohm/rtHz, so it may meet the requirement
slow (~20 min) drift at dR ~ 5e-4 Ohm -> this should be negligible
- Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
- aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
- aLIGO viewport is always closed
if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon
BS baffle could make contract defect? (LIGO-T1000090)
- ask Akutsu and Hiro
- BS has 370 mm dia and beam at BS is 2*36 mm dia. So, it should be in principle OK. But recoil mass aperture should be considered.
- bKAGRA ISC cabling [Michimura/Doi]
- need to announce to IOO,ISC mailing list; e-mailed to Doi-san for go sign
- Mirror absorption measurement status [Hirose]
- Output optics status [Somiya]
suspensions for OMMT1/2 is same as IMMT1/2 (driver list for now: JGW-L1605334)
- we have to make vacuum compatible PD/QPD for OMC by 2018.3
- beam shutter: prototype done, AR coating and driver circuit design not yet
OMC suspension requirement cross check [Somiya]
- Magnetic noise, actuator noise calculation for cryogenic payload [Michimura]
Ask Tomaru about the parameters and actuator design, range
Task list update (TaskList) [Michimura]