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== Minutes ==
 * bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
  * ASC sensing matrix for ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5362|JGW-T1605362]]) was updated to reflect PR2-PR3 length decision [Enomoto]
  * summary of Phase 1 study [Michimura] ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5595|JGW-T1605595]])
   * MIF agreed with this goal
 * Output optical tables [Michimura]
  * need to check noise performance and transimpedance RF PDs and RF QPDs
   * RF PDs could have higher noise (~5 mA?) than aLIGO ones (~2 mA?) because of the modification done
  * we also have to modify RF PD to
   * fix DC path
   * solve single supply issue (RF PDs easily break when accidentally supplied with single)
   * fix plugs so that Dsub 9pin cable fixes better
 * RF generation scheme [Michimura]
  * ALS sideband frequencies [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5626|JGW-T1605626]]
   * MIF agreed with 32 MHz for ALSX, 33 MHz for ALSY plan
 * Aperture of sapphire test mass
  * Recoil mass aperture is 191 mm at min for HR side, 188 mm at min for AR(coil) side
   * requiring diffraction loss of 10 ppm, 2.4 sigma aperture is needed
   * considering 35.3 mm beam radius on ITM/ETM, 188 mm is tolerable for diffraction loss
   * from order estimate, scattering noise should also be OK
    * <10 ppm scattering from recoil mass is roughly same as few ppm scattering from mirror surface
  * what is the baffle aperture?
 * bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
  * POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
  * budget for baffles around POY and POP were shifted to next FY [SEO]
   * so we don't need precise layout CAD around POY and POP for now

ISC Meeting on 2016/9/5 14:00 - 15:00

Participants: Michimura, Enomoto, Arai, Aso, Haino, Miyakawa

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2016/9/20 14:00 - 15:00

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Minutes

  • bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
    • ASC sensing matrix for (JGW-T1605362) was updated to reflect PR2-PR3 length decision [Enomoto]

    • summary of Phase 1 study [Michimura] (JGW-T1605595)

      • MIF agreed with this goal
  • Output optical tables [Michimura]
    • need to check noise performance and transimpedance RF PDs and RF QPDs
      • RF PDs could have higher noise (~5 mA?) than aLIGO ones (~2 mA?) because of the modification done
    • we also have to modify RF PD to
      • fix DC path
      • solve single supply issue (RF PDs easily break when accidentally supplied with single)
      • fix plugs so that Dsub 9pin cable fixes better
  • RF generation scheme [Michimura]
    • ALS sideband frequencies JGW-T1605626

      • MIF agreed with 32 MHz for ALSX, 33 MHz for ALSY plan
  • Aperture of sapphire test mass
    • Recoil mass aperture is 191 mm at min for HR side, 188 mm at min for AR(coil) side
      • requiring diffraction loss of 10 ppm, 2.4 sigma aperture is needed
      • considering 35.3 mm beam radius on ITM/ETM, 188 mm is tolerable for diffraction loss
      • from order estimate, scattering noise should also be OK
        • <10 ppm scattering from recoil mass is roughly same as few ppm scattering from mirror surface

    • what is the baffle aperture?
  • bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
    • POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
    • budget for baffles around POY and POP were shifted to next FY [SEO]
      • so we don't need precise layout CAD around POY and POP for now

Agenda

  • bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
    • HOM structure / ASC check [Enomoto] (JGW-T1605362)

      • decided to move PR2/3 by 1.20 cm
        • this is possible even in vacuum [Shoda confirmed]
        • adjustment takes only few minutes
      • precise TMS measurement can be done using transfer function measurement with injected sidebands trough IMC (see LIGO-G080467)

        • consider using this technique
        • cryopayload installation finish on Feb 2, 2018 and cool down start on Feb 19
        • could be tough to do TMS tuning considering schedule
      • effect on WFS from RF HOMs should be simulated [who?]
      • feedback topology and noise study should be done [who?]
    • check if reference spheres for PR mirrors are available at Caltech [Hirose]
      • 9.0m (CC), 11.5m (CC), 6.5m (CC), 5.0m (CC), 34m (CX), 36m (CX) were available
      • PR2/SR2 is -3.0764m/-2.9872m and PR3/SR3 is 24.9165m. Maybe 5.0m TS can be used for PR2/SR2.
      • what about PR3/SR3, PRM/SRM?
    • check if IMC length stability and others are compatible with 3-km PRMI [Michimura]
    • summary of Phase 1 study [Michimura] (JGW-T1605595)

  • bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: JGW-T1605274

    • beam profiling plan should be compatible with vacuum plan; MIF will lead the planning
      • not only PR2-PR3 but also IMMT1-IMMT2
    • how to extract AS beam should be fixed by MIF
    • according to CRYp current schedule;
      • Nov 1, 2017: ETMY CRYp installation done
      • Nov 21, 2017: ETMY cool down starts
      • Feb 2, 2018: ETMX CRYp installation done
      • Feb 19, 2018: ETMY cool down starts
    • we need more time for PR-ETMY cavity
      • negotiate with CRYp to fix ETMY cooling schedule

    • initial alignment plan including green is taken cared by MIF [confirmed with Kawamura, Moriwaki on Aug 30]
  • bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics (Analog Electronics for ISC) [Michimura]

    • Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
      • 1st stage amp is heating up
      • we have to decide if we need 1st stage amp or not

    • remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]

      • MIF will take care istead of AEL
      • mass production will be taken care by AEL
      • 4-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZFSC-4-1-S+) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft

    • RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?; by 2016.10]

      • we will omit RF monitor for now, and add them later
      • Nakano found front/rear panels -> Mozumi office loft

      • ordered RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-11-23-CK-100-15)
      • 8-way splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+), coupler (Mini-Circuits ZX30-20-4) arrived at Kamioka -> Mozumi office loft

      • ordered cables and connectors to assemble one chassis by hand [Kokeyama,Michimura]
      • basically copy of LIGO-D1000124, but we will omit Interface for the first stage

      • ask LIGO people for necessity of RF monitor [Michimura]
        • RF monitor was used in aLIGO for noise hunting and IFO health check (input from Izumi)
      • asked AEL to make RF amplifier interface board (which is also used for Frequency Doubler) [Michimura]
    • RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]

      • one by one by hand is tough; outsource?
    • Electronics request meeting with Miyakawa/Kamiizumi on Aug 24
      • 4 chasses of Quad IQ Demodulator ASC by July 2017 might be tough, but all the others are OK
      • Quad IQ Demodulator ASC is not so high priority anyway (compared with coil drivers for VIS)
      • Rear panels of RF Distribution Amplifier will be updated for RF monitor
      • we might have to help them with ordering RF components
      • photos of the assembled chassis are helpful for AEL
  • Output optical tables [Michimura] (OutputTables wiki)

    • Kawamura suggested to move this task from IOO to MIF

    • vacuum optics to extract beams for each port (except for REFL and AS DC) and related beam shutters will also be MIF task
    • MIF and IOO agreed, waiting for SEO to agree
  • RF generation scheme [Michimura]
    • f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
    • we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
    • use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz (FSR for IMC))
      • seeking for vendors
    • MIF and IOO agreed to use 13.78 MHz (~= f2/8*2.45) for IMC sideband (JGW-T1605493)

      • sent email to Uehara; he is already tuning the resonance close to this value
    • may be IMC sideband (and ALS sidebands) should also needs to be phase locked with f1/f2/f3 to avoid "whistling noise"
    • how to decide ALS sideband frequencies? JGW-T1605626

  • Arm Length Stabilization plan (JGW-T1605353)

    • NoiseBudget [Kambara]

      • results agreed with Tatsumi Simulink model
      • include fiber noise (fiber setup is different from Tatsumi model)
      • include phase noise from mirror vibration for IR beat setup (it is one of the limiting noise source for aLIGO)
      • schedule and plan for the procurement of circuits should be fixed soon
        • keep in touch with AEL group


  • Aperture of sapphire test mass
    • AR aperture is 204 mm dia for sapphire mirror
      • this size is tolerable considering 35.3 mm beam radius on ITM/ETM and 2.7 sigma (1 ppm loss)
    • Recoil mass aperture is 191 mm at min for HR side, 188 mm at min for AR(coil) side
      • is this OK?
      • what is the requirement for the recoil mass miscentering with respect to test mass center?
  • bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
    • POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
    • we need layout CAD for POY pickoff mirror, POP pickoff mirror to design baffles
      • possibility of buying baffles next FY? -> ask SEO [Aso]

      • ask SEO to hire a person dedicated for optical CAD
      • layout CAD will be prepared by each subgroup for the time being
  • iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
    • mysterious LPF was from saturation
    • write an elog about this conclusion [Aso]

  • Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
    • recent result show dR < 1e-7 Ohm/rtHz, so it may meet the requirement

    • slow (~20 min) drift at dR ~ 5e-4 Ohm -> this should be negligible

  • Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
    • aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
    • aLIGO viewport is always closed
    • if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon

  • BS baffle could make contract defect? (LIGO-T1000090)

    • ask Akutsu and Hiro
    • BS has 370 mm dia and beam at BS is 2*36 mm dia. So, it should be in principle OK. But recoil mass aperture should be considered.
  • bKAGRA ISC cabling [Michimura/Doi]
    • need to announce to IOO,ISC mailing list; e-mailed to Doi-san for go sign
  • Mirror absorption measurement status [Hirose]
  • Output optics status [Somiya]
    • suspensions for OMMT1/2 is same as IMMT1/2 (driver list for now: JGW-L1605334)

    • we have to make vacuum compatible PD/QPD for OMC by 2018.3
    • beam shutter: prototype done, AR coating and driver circuit design not yet
    • OMC suspension requirement cross check [Somiya]

  • Magnetic noise, actuator noise calculation for cryogenic payload [Michimura]
    • Ask Tomaru about the parameters and actuator design, range

  • Task list update (TaskList) [Michimura]

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