ISC Meeting on 2017/11/6 14:00 - 15:00
Participants: Aso, Enomoto, Hiro Yamamoto, Koji Arai, Koji Nagano, Hirose, Miyakawa, Kokeyama, Izumi, Somiya, Michimura
eZuce meeting: "KAGRA ISC Meeting" in the KEK community.
Next meeting
2017/11/20 14:00 - 15:00
Minutes
- KAGRA configuration for early phase of bKAGRA
- SRM reflectivity
- Metal mass design [Aso]
- design almost complete
- estimate says roughly 15man-yen, 1-2 months
- glue 2-inch SRM onto a ring, and fix the ring onto doughnut mass with screws
- A/I: upload the design to JGWDoc by Nov 13 [Aso]
Sensitivity calculations [Enomoto] JGW-G1707078
- made noise vs input power plot necessary to achieve ~6 event/year (~40 Mpc for BNS, ~580 Mpc for BBH30)
- MICH coupling is worse with lower reflectivity SRM
- suspension thermal noise will be 2 orders of magnitude worse in room temperature case [by Somiya]
- A/I: somehow compare with AdV [Enomoto]
- A/I: laser intensity/frequency noise coupling [Izumi]
- 2-inch SRM estimate [Michimura,Hirose]
- Asked to 2 companies. Roughly ~100man-yen.
- We want it to arrive at least before the final phase of SRM installation (August 2018)
- Metal mass design [Aso]
- PRFPMI or RSE [Michimura]
- PRFPMI with either spare ETM or real ETM will delay the overall schedule to make KAGRA compatible with GW detection
- What is our target? Joining O3 or first detection ASAP?
- We also have to consider what to do if we miss O3. It's harder to detect GW with single detector. Global coordination necessary.
- Possibility of parallel work for joining O3?
- A/I: sensitivity calculations for PRFPMI with spare ETM [Enomoto,Michimura]
- SRM reflectivity
Agenda
- bKAGRA Phase 1 [Michimura]
- no AS optics for Phase 1, instead use reflection REFL beam from PRM
- we have to prepare REFL optics
- height of the beam from PR/BS breadboard will be 380 mm instead of 400 mm?
- experiments for Phase 1 paper
bKAGRA Phase 2 schedule [Michimura] JGW-T1707079
- meeting with SEO on Sept 6
- Goal: 1 hour lock of cryogenic RSE with RF readout, probably with ASC, no sensitivity goal
- input laser power not decided
- when to swap ETM, SRM reflectivity, vacuum
- schedule adjustment between AS WFS and OMC test necessary
SRM reflectivity for early phase of bKAGRA [Enomoto] JGW-G1707078
- Sensitivity calculations [Enomoto]
- Made excess noise vs input power plot necessary to achieve BNS range of 40 Mpc
- SRM reflectivity of 70% seems least demanding in terms of excess noise and input power
- A/I: redo calculation for BBH range (with estimate of event rate) [Enomoto]
- LSC noise coupling calculation on going
- UGF for auxiliary dof can be lower than 50 Hz [by Izumi]
- MICH error signal from POP instead of MICH might be better considering phase flipping [by Izumi]
- Made excess noise vs input power plot necessary to achieve BNS range of 40 Mpc
SRM surface quality [Hirose] JGW-T1707296
- MCe-level quality SRM will produce ~52 ppm (this estimate is based on surface quality without coating; coating could increase loss by x2 to x4)
- A/I: SRM loss requirement for low reflectivity SRM [Michimura,Enomoto]
- SRM metal mass [Aso]
- overall mechanical components will cost roughly ~1M JPY [Aso]
- composite mass could create unwanted resonance (at ~3 kHz in aLIGO case, with PEEK screw)
- sensitivity for misaligning or adding extra loss with 85% SRM is worse than that for 0% SRM
- A/Is
- check LSC (and ASC) with different SRM reflectivity and incident power [Enomoto]
- make a budget/manpower/schedule plan for SRM suspension with 2-inch mirror holder [Aso]
- since there is already a BS dummy metal mirror suspension design, making similar system for SRM should be easy
- 2-inch SRM [Michimura, Hirose]
- asking some companies for estimate
loss function estimate [Hirose] JGW-T1707296
- make an overall budget/manpower/schedule estimate to reach 40 Mpc with different SRM reflectivity [Michimura]
- Sensitivity calculations [Enomoto]
bKAGRA Phase 1 spare ETM quality [Hirose,Michimura] JGW-T1707281
- 60ppm scattering, 200ppm coating absorption for ETMX
- 287ppm scattering, 41ppm coating absorption for ETMY
is this compatible with RSE (and even PRFPMI)?
- IMMT1 and IMMT2 transmission [Michimura, Takeda]
- IMMT2 transmission optics are too much squeezed
- IR/green steering mirrors [Michimura]
- mirrors arrived, mirror mounts and picomotor driver ordered, pedestals by Akutsu, vacuum cables by Aso
- DC QPD holder [Michimura]
beam height should be 4inch to use similar mount, with small modification of spacer (instead of 3inch in JGW-D1402607)
- RF PD, RF QPD boxes are designed for 4inch beam height
- stages are not needed for ISC DC QPD
design new ones; they can be very simple [-> Michimura?]
- calibration can be done in different ways
- put strain relief and anchors for cables to protect QPD board
- OMC and OFI [Somiya]
- look for OFI with larger aperture [Somiya]
- DC PD and DC QPD [Michimura]
- DC PD not available. Look for product with similar specs
- DC QPD available from RS
In-vacuum RF PD and RF QPD
- we need them within 1 year, considering OMC REFL and AS RF
In-vac beam-dumps
- required spec?
PSL EOM Layout re-consideration [Enomoto] (JGW-T1706748)
- Delay-line length decided to be 2.66 m (instead of 8.88 m)
- Modulation phase between f1 AM and PM is always aligned (we need this to be aligned)
Modulation index needed at each EOM is less than measured maximum index by Uehera (JGW-T1605611)
Optickle simulation by Kohei Yamamoto JGW-G1707309
- simulation on imperfections (MZ arm asymmetry, MZ lock, EOM phase difference control etc.)
- start with hand calculation, simple setups, and then to full IFO simulation
- Optickle model basically made, and checked with hand calculations
- calculations for requirements on delay line lock displacement noise, parallel EOM MZ lock displacement noise, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance on-going
- A/I: check phase noise calculations, requirements for f1 AM-PM mixed case [Kohei Yamamoto]
- Requirement on carrier power loss?
- Comment from Stefan Ballmer
- Similar calculation was done in LIGO in the past. Displacement noise requirement for MZ was tough (~1e-14 m/rtHz).
- Any in-air interferometer suffer from jitter and frequency noise which cannot be suppressed.
- Actuator noise modeling [Michimura,Miyamoto]
Summarized in the paper JGW-P1707051
- Needs to implement frequency noise, but FSS modeling with ALS is complicated [student!]
Discuss mirror vibration from heat link
- Meeting on July 14 [Yamada, Miyamoto, Ushiba, Michimura]
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