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   * needs RF tripler for 16.88 MHz and 45 MHz, RF PD for 50.64 MHz (3*f1) and 135 MHz (3*f2).    * Needs RF tripler for 16.88 MHz and 45 MHz, RF PD for 50.64 MHz (3*f1) and 135 MHz (3*f2). Broadband photo detector? ([[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-D1002969/public|LIGO-D1002969]])
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   * needs RF differential frequency generator for 39.39 MHz (f3-f1) and 11.25 MHz (f3-f2), RF PD for those frequencies.    * needs RF differential frequency generator (or harmonics generator) for 39.39 MHz (f3-f1) and 11.25 MHz (f3-f2), RF PD for those frequencies.
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 * ALS configuration {*} [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7416|JGW-E1707416]]
  * E8663D with FM option or AOM driver for AOM VCO for green PDH
  * where to put a frequency offset: arm length or PLL offset

 * RF generation scheme [Michimura]
  * f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
  * we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
  * use harmonics generator (x3, x5, x6, x7, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz (FSR for IMC))
    * seeking for vendors

ISC Meeting on 2018/1/29 14:00 - 15:00

Participants:

eZuce meeting: "KAGRA ISC Meeting" in the KEK community.

Next meeting

2018/2/13 (Tue) 14:00 - 15:00 ??

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Agenda

  • KAGRA configuration for early phase of bKAGRA JGW-T1707334 {*}

    • SRM reflectivity
      • Mirror ordered
      • Black coating for metal mass?
    • ITM asymmetry [Enomoto] JGW-T1707565 {*}

      • ITM asymmetry is OK for early stages, but asymmetric ITMs cannot be used for achieving design sensitivity
  • bKAGRA Phase 1 [Michimura]
    • no AS optics for Phase 1, instead use reflection REFL beam from PRM
    • we have to prepare REFL optics
      • height of the beam from PR/BS breadboard will be 380 mm instead of 400 mm
  • bKAGRA Phase 2 schedule [Michimura] JGW-T1707079

    • meeting with SEO on Sept 6
    • Goal: 1 hour lock of cryogenic RSE with RF readout, probably with ASC, no sensitivity goal
    • input laser power not decided
    • when to swap ETM, SRM reflectivity, vacuum
    • schedule adjustment between AS WFS and OMC test necessary
  • bKAGRA cables [Michimura] JGW-T1707586 {*}

    • we have to soon purchase RF cables, but cable lengths depend on the position of ISC racks
    • discussion and cable length measurements in the week of Jan 22
  • PSL EOM Layout re-consideration [Enomoto] (JGW-T1706748)

    • Delay-line length decided to be 2.66 m (instead of 8.88 m)
    • Modulation phase between f1 AM and PM is always aligned (we need this to be aligned)
    • Modulation index needed at each EOM is less than measured maximum index by Uehera (JGW-T1605611)

    • Optickle simulation by Kohei Yamamoto JGW-G1707309 JGW-G1807655 {*}

      • simulation on imperfections (MZ arm asymmetry, MZ lock, EOM phase difference control etc.)
      • start with hand calculation, simple setups, and then to full IFO simulation
      • Optickle model basically made, and checked with hand calculations
      • calculations for requirements on delay line lock displacement noise, parallel EOM MZ lock displacement noise, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance on-going
      • A/I: check phase noise calculations, requirements for f1 AM-PM mixed case [Kohei Yamamoto]
      • Requirements derived from full Optickle simulation and those derived from transfer function between displacement of MZI and sideband power do not match.
        • A/I: upload the code on SVN. RF AM camp in Ando group on Jan 18.
    • Requirement on carrier power loss?
    • Comment from Stefan Ballmer
      • Similar calculation was done in LIGO in the past. Displacement noise requirement for MZ was tough (~1e-14 m/rtHz).
      • Any in-air interferometer suffer from jitter and frequency noise which cannot be suppressed.
  • Three-f or 3f for early phase of bKAGRA ? {*}

    • Three-f (THD)
      • Needs RF tripler for 16.88 MHz and 45 MHz, RF PD for 50.64 MHz (3*f1) and 135 MHz (3*f2). Broadband photo detector? (LIGO-D1002969)

      • operational frequency range of IQ demodulator: upto 100 MHz
    • 3f
      • needs RF differential frequency generator (or harmonics generator) for 39.39 MHz (f3-f1) and 11.25 MHz (f3-f2), RF PD for those frequencies.
      • needs Mach-Zehnder modulation
  • ALS configuration {*} JGW-E1707416

    • E8663D with FM option or AOM driver for AOM VCO for green PDH
    • where to put a frequency offset: arm length or PLL offset
  • RF generation scheme [Michimura]
    • f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
    • we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
    • use harmonics generator (x3, x5, x6, x7, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz (FSR for IMC))
      • seeking for vendors


  • IMMT1 and IMMT2 transmission [Michimura, Takeda]
    • IMMT2 transmission optics are too much squeezed
  • IR/green steering mirrors [Michimura]
    • mirrors arrived, mirror mounts and picomotor driver ordered, pedestals by Akutsu, vacuum cables by Aso
  • DC QPD holder [Michimura]
    • beam height should be 4inch to use similar mount, with small modification of spacer (instead of 3inch in JGW-D1402607)

      • RF PD, RF QPD boxes are designed for 4inch beam height
    • stages are not needed for ISC DC QPD
    • design new ones; they can be very simple [-> Michimura?]

    • calibration can be done in different ways
    • put strain relief and anchors for cables to protect QPD board
  • OMC and OFI [Somiya]
    • look for OFI with larger aperture [Somiya]
    • DC PD and DC QPD [Michimura]
      • DC PD not available. Look for product with similar specs
      • DC QPD available from RS
  • In-vacuum RF PD and RF QPD {*}

    • we need them within 1 year, considering OMC REFL and AS RF
  • In-vac beam-dumps {*}

    • required spec?
  • Actuator noise modeling [Michimura,Miyamoto]
    • Summarized in the paper JGW-P1707051

    • Needs to implement frequency noise, but FSS modeling with ALS is complicated [student!]
    • Discuss mirror vibration from heat link {*}

      • Meeting on July 14 [Yamada, Miyamoto, Ushiba, Michimura]

See this page for other agendas.

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