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Participants: Participants: Koji Arai, Eiichi Hirose, Yutaro Enomoto, Yoichi Aso, Kohei Yamamoto, Keiko Kokeyama
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2018/2/13 (Tue) 14:00 - 15:00 ?? 2018/3/26 (Mon) 14:00 - 15:00 ??
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== Minutes ==

  * Agreed on the loation of the POX table and ISC racks.
  * Modification necessary:
   * REFL signals and POY signals should be demodulated by IOO rack since ISC racks are too far (~ 40m to 50m)
   * Use cable rack under SR2-SR3 pipe for cables to ISC racks
   * Use cable racks on +X side for AS signal

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 * KAGRA configuration for early phase of bKAGRA [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7334|JGW-T1707334]] {*}  * KAGRA configuration for early phase of bKAGRA [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7334|JGW-T1707334]]
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  * ITM asymmetry [Enomoto] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7565|JGW-T1707565]] {*}   * ITM asymmetry [Enomoto] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7565|JGW-T1707565]]
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 * bKAGRA Phase 1 [Michimura]
  * no AS optics for Phase 1, instead use reflection REFL beam from PRM
  * we have to prepare REFL optics
   * height of the beam from PR/BS breadboard will be 380 mm instead of 400 mm

 * bKAGRA Phase 2 schedule [Michimura] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7079|JGW-T1707079]]
  * meeting with SEO on Sept 6
  * Goal: 1 hour lock of cryogenic RSE with RF readout, probably with ASC, no sensitivity goal
  * input laser power not decided
  * when to swap ETM, SRM reflectivity, vacuum
  * schedule adjustment between AS WFS and OMC test necessary
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 * PSL EOM Layout re-consideration [Enomoto] ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=6748|JGW-T1706748]])
  * Delay-line length decided to be 2.66 m (instead of 8.88 m)
  * Modulation index needed at each EOM is less than measured maximum index by Uehera ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5611|JGW-T1605611]])
  * Optickle simulation by Kohei Yamamoto
[[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7309|JGW-G1707309]] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7655|JGW-G1807655]] {*}
   * simulation on imperfections (MZ arm asymmetry, MZ lock, EOM phase difference control etc.)
   * Requirements derived from full Optickle simulation and those derived from transfer function between displacement of MZI and sideband power kind of matched after implementing RAM into calculation for the latter. However, we need more investigation on the following issues:
    * Modulation depth for RAM generating EOM changes the requirement.
    * Spectrum shapes of the requirements for mid-fringe do not match. Maybe coming from accuracy of the mid-fringe?
    * Unknown frequency response of the transfer function from the displacement of MZI and sideband power
   * calculations for requirements on delay line lock displacement noise, parallel EOM MZ lock displacement noise, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance on-going
   * A/I: check phase noise calculations, requirements for f1 AM-PM mixed case [Kohei Yamamoto]
   * Relative f1 PM and f1 AM also needs to be adjusted
. Another EOM for f1 or relative amplitude adjuster between two EOMs?
 * RF generation using Mach-Zehnder interferometer [Kohei Yamamoto] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7309|JGW-G1707309]] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7655|JGW-G1807655]] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8029|JGW-G1808029]] {*}
  * simulation on imperfections (MZ arm asymmetry, MZ lock, EOM phase difference control etc.)
  * calculate requirements on MZI displacement, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance
  * Requirements derived from full Optickle simulation and those derived from transfer function between displacement of MZI
and sideband power kind of matched after implementing RAM into calculation for the latter. However, we need more investigation on the following issues:
   * Modulation depth for RAM generating EOM changes the requirement.
   * Spectrum shapes of the requirements for mid-fringe do not match. Maybe coming from accuracy of the mid-fringe?
   * Unknown frequency response of the transfer function from the displacement of MZI and sideband power
  * calculations for requirements on delay line lock displacement noise, parallel EOM MZ lock displacement noise, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance on-going
  * Relative f1 PM and f1 AM also needs to be adjusted ([[http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0264-9381/31/9/095003/meta|CQG 31, 095003 (2014)]]). Another EOM for f1 or relative amplitude adjuster between two EOMs?
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 * ALS configuration {*} [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7416|JGW-E1707416]] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=788|JGW-T1200788]]
  * E8663D with FM option or A
OM driver for AOM VCO for green PDH
 * ALS configuration {*} [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7416|JGW-E1707416]] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=788|JGW-T1200788]] [[KAGRA/Subgroups/IOO/ALS|ALS Wiki]]
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  * ordered AOM G&H 3080-125 (80MHz) and AOM driver G&H 1075FM-1 (1W, 5MHz BW)
  * frequency counter Tektronix FCA3103 arrived at UToyama
  * end-cap for fiber or not
   * end-cap on both ends
    * compatible to high power, upto 1.4 W
    * achieved input coupling of 80% with commercial collimator
    * measured output beam mode with commercial collimator is strange
    * can not connect short fiber on both ends for protection for handling
   * end-cap only on input side
    * can connect short fiber on output side for protection for handling
    * output beam mode is measured to be good without end-cap
    * possibility of loss and darkening at the connector adapter
   * no end-cap
    * can only put 20 mW at max, according to the specsheet
    * can connect short fiber on both side for protection for handling
    * output beam mode is measured to be good without end-cap
    * possibility of loss and darkening at the connector adapter
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    * seeking for vendors (Wenzel? API Technologies (Spectrum Microwave)?) {*}    * Wenzel specsheet [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8028|JGW-D1808028]] {*}
    * if Wenzel reference is input, it gives -155 dBc/Hz @ 100Hz for f1, -147 dBc/Hz @ 100 Hz for f2
    * meets the BRSE requirement (but not DRSE requirement without f1 AM) [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=913|JGW-T1200913]]

ISC Meeting on 2018/3/12 14:00 - 15:00

Participants: Koji Arai, Eiichi Hirose, Yutaro Enomoto, Yoichi Aso, Kohei Yamamoto, Keiko Kokeyama

eZuce meeting: "KAGRA ISC Meeting" in the KEK community.

Next meeting

2018/3/26 (Mon) 14:00 - 15:00 ??

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Agenda

  • KAGRA configuration for early phase of bKAGRA JGW-T1707334

    • SRM reflectivity
      • Mirror ordered
      • Black coating for metal mass?
    • ITM asymmetry [Enomoto] JGW-T1707565

      • ITM asymmetry is OK for early stages, but asymmetric ITMs cannot be used for achieving design sensitivity
  • bKAGRA RF cables [Michimura] klog #4362 {*}

    • purchased almost all the SMA cables, except for 30m cables
  • RF generation using Mach-Zehnder interferometer [Kohei Yamamoto] JGW-G1707309 JGW-G1807655 JGW-G1808029 {*}

    • simulation on imperfections (MZ arm asymmetry, MZ lock, EOM phase difference control etc.)
    • calculate requirements on MZI displacement, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance
    • Requirements derived from full Optickle simulation and those derived from transfer function between displacement of MZI and sideband power kind of matched after implementing RAM into calculation for the latter. However, we need more investigation on the following issues:
      • Modulation depth for RAM generating EOM changes the requirement.
      • Spectrum shapes of the requirements for mid-fringe do not match. Maybe coming from accuracy of the mid-fringe?
      • Unknown frequency response of the transfer function from the displacement of MZI and sideband power
    • calculations for requirements on delay line lock displacement noise, parallel EOM MZ lock displacement noise, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance on-going
    • Relative f1 PM and f1 AM also needs to be adjusted (CQG 31, 095003 (2014)). Another EOM for f1 or relative amplitude adjuster between two EOMs?

    • Requirement on carrier power loss?
    • Comment from Stefan Ballmer
      • Similar calculation was done in LIGO in the past. Displacement noise requirement for MZ was tough (~1e-14 m/rtHz).
      • Any in-air interferometer suffer from jitter and frequency noise which cannot be suppressed.
    • Ref: LIGO-T040119

  • Three-f or 3f for early phase of bKAGRA ? {*}

    • Three-f (THD)
      • Needs RF tripler for 16.88 MHz and 45 MHz, RF PD for 50.64 MHz (3*f1) and 135 MHz (3*f2). Broadband photo detector? (LIGO-D1002969)

      • operational frequency range of IQ demodulator: upto 100 MHz
    • 3f
      • needs RF differential frequency generator (or harmonics generator) for 39.39 MHz (f3-f1) and 11.25 MHz (f3-f2), RF PD for those frequencies.
      • needs Mach-Zehnder modulation
  • ALS configuration {*} JGW-E1707416 JGW-T1200788 ALS Wiki

    • where to put a frequency offset: arm length or PLL offset [Enomoto] JGW-L1807726

    • ordered AOM G&H 3080-125 (80MHz) and AOM driver G&H 1075FM-1 (1W, 5MHz BW)

    • frequency counter Tektronix FCA3103 arrived at UToyama
    • end-cap for fiber or not
      • end-cap on both ends
        • compatible to high power, upto 1.4 W
        • achieved input coupling of 80% with commercial collimator
        • measured output beam mode with commercial collimator is strange
        • can not connect short fiber on both ends for protection for handling
      • end-cap only on input side
        • can connect short fiber on output side for protection for handling
        • output beam mode is measured to be good without end-cap
        • possibility of loss and darkening at the connector adapter
      • no end-cap
        • can only put 20 mW at max, according to the specsheet
        • can connect short fiber on both side for protection for handling
        • output beam mode is measured to be good without end-cap
        • possibility of loss and darkening at the connector adapter
  • RF generation scheme [Michimura]
    • f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
    • we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
    • use harmonics generator (x3, x5, x6, x7, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz (FSR for IMC))
      • Wenzel specsheet JGW-D1808028 {*}

        • if Wenzel reference is input, it gives -155 dBc/Hz @ 100Hz for f1, -147 dBc/Hz @ 100 Hz for f2
        • meets the BRSE requirement (but not DRSE requirement without f1 AM) JGW-T1200913


  • IMMT1 and IMMT2 transmission [Michimura, Takeda]
    • IMMT2 transmission optics are too much squeezed
  • IR/green steering mirrors [Michimura]
    • mirrors arrived, mirror mounts and picomotor driver ordered, pedestals by Akutsu, vacuum cables by Aso
  • DC QPD holder [Michimura]
    • beam height should be 4inch to use similar mount, with small modification of spacer (instead of 3inch in JGW-D1402607)

      • RF PD, RF QPD boxes are designed for 4inch beam height
    • stages are not needed for ISC DC QPD
    • design new ones; they can be very simple [-> Michimura?]

    • calibration can be done in different ways
    • put strain relief and anchors for cables to protect QPD board
  • OMC and OFI [Somiya]
    • look for OFI with larger aperture [Somiya]
    • DC PD and DC QPD [Michimura]
      • DC PD not available. Look for product with similar specs
      • DC QPD available from RS
  • In-vacuum RF PD and RF QPD {*}

    • we need them within 1 year, considering OMC REFL and AS RF
  • In-vac beam-dumps {*}

    • required spec?
  • Actuator noise modeling [Michimura,Miyamoto]
    • Summarized in the paper JGW-P1707051

    • Needs to implement frequency noise, but FSS modeling with ALS is complicated [student!]
    • Discuss mirror vibration from heat link {*}

      • Meeting on July 14 [Yamada, Miyamoto, Ushiba, Michimura]

See this page for other agendas.

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