= ISC Meeting on 2018/12/3 14:00 - 15:00 = Participants: Koji Arai, Kiwamu Izumi, Tomo Akutsu, Yutaro Enomoto, Yoichi Aso, Keiko Kokeyama, Eiichi Hirose, Osamu Miyakawa, Kazuya Yokogawa, Yuta Michimura Zoom meeting: https://zoom.us/j/6676627462 === Next meeting === TBD (Michimura has a meeting on Dec 17) [[LCGT/subgroup/ifo/ISC/Meetings|back to Meetings page]] == Minutes == * LLO report [Kokeyama] * ETM replaced for nominal ETM reflectivity for green, and better surface quality * 72.8 MHz (f1*13-f2) added for ASC of SRC * Added extra modulation into triple resonant EOM (took one resonant circuit from IMC sideband) * See, also [[https://alog.ligo-wa.caltech.edu/aLOG/index.php?callRep=36354|LHO alog #36354]] * Possible scattered light noise from EY * Squeezing. 5dB injected at LHO, <2dB detected (loss from output) * Water vibration noise from PSL periscope * Input power of 20W is OK, but 30W is unstable. * Full lock squence didn't change so much from 2015 when Keiko was at LLO. * Operators are very important. No operators during night when commissioning * ALS report [Enomoto] * Noise mainly comes from fiber noise and reduced to RMS of 13 Hz. * Fiber noise cancellation might be necessary. * Requires AOM and ~10% coupler. * Windshield for PSL table and POP table? * Mach-Zehnder Modulation meeting on Dec 7 [Yamakoh,Michimura] * Not sure if requirement calculation using Optickle is reasonable or not * Requirement calculated directly from the TF from MZI displacement noise to DARM and that calculated using TFs from MZI displacement to multiple f1/f2 PM/RAM amplitude/phase noise, multiplied by TFs from multiple f1/f2 PM/RAM amplitude/phase noise to DARM do not match. * A/I: * Analytically calculate TFs from multiple f1/f2 PM/RAM amplitude/phase noise ([[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-T1500559/public|LIGO-T1500559]]) to DARM and compare them with Optickle. * Analytically calculate TFs from MZI displacement to multiple f1/f2 PM/RAM amplitude/phase noise == Agenda == * '''Short agenda''' * LLO report from Kokeyama-san * MZM updates (measurements, requirement calculations)? * OMC electronics preparation status? * ASC calculation with ITMY inhomogeneity status? * Main topics for Phase-2 [Michimura] * Fix initial alignment scheme for full IFO * Enomoto? * For XY arm [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8462|JGW-G1808462]] * Finalize ALS scheme and RF AM generation scheme and finalize lock acquisition scheme * Enomoto? * ISC modeling, especially ASC modeling, for intermediate IFO configurations * Tanioka for ASC? * Cabling diagram * Almost finalized [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8394|JGW-D1808394]] * In-vacuum RF PD and RF QPD * Izumi will ask LIGO people first. And ask Doi for handling fabrication? * Laser welding would be tough (resonant circuit cannot be re-tuned) * Use similar design to OMC DC PD preamplifier? * Readout DC PDs and OMC * In-vac amplifier board made [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=9177|JGW-D1809177]] * Cabling diagram around OMC [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=9012|JGW-G1809012]] * Design output optics on optical tables * REFL [Aritomi] (done buying parts) [[http://gwwiki.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/JGWwiki/KAGRA/Subgroups/IOO/OutputTables/Optics|Output Tables Optics wiki]] * POP [done for green; ? for IR] * POS [done for green; ? for IR] * TRX/TRY [K. Nagano for both IR and green] * TRX designed and assembled [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8962|JGW-T1808962]] * AS [??] * [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8429|20 mm diameter optics post]] to be ordered by Izumi * Mach-Zehnder modulator [Yamakoh] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8029|JGW-G1808029]] * PD noise was updated and worse * A/I: Look into requirement calculations again * Phase noise for f1 RAM, which comes from asymmetry of 1st MZI, gives the most stringent requirement * Displacement noises of 1st and 2nd MZI do not meet the Phase 2 requirement. * Measured modulation depths for each EOM alone fluctuates very much. To be investigated. * Plan for O3 * Work on noise hunting etc until Nov 26 (before Yarm alignment starts) * Do technical readiness review in December * Displacement noise, modulation depth, residual amplitude modulation, phase noise, long term stability * If MZM do not meet the requirement by the review, we will block one of the arms of 1st and 2nd MZIs. * We will loose 7/8 of the power, but it is OK for now * Do MZM characterizations when possible * In case we need more power, we will replace BSs with mirrors (and MZM R&D on site is terminated for the time being) * MIF will prepare RF PDs for three-f in parallel * Future plans * Make monolithic MZM? * Make a wind shield? * RF modulation system * Three-f or f3 * Agreed to work on both three-f and f3 for redundancy * O3 requirement for MZI was calculated (and met?) * A/I: The deadline and when to disassemble MZI (remove some of BSs) when the requirement was not met are to be discussed * A/I: How to proceed with broadband PDs for f3-f1/f3-f2? Modify our resonant RF PD? (BB PD also necessary for SPOP (and SPOS)) * Low noise VCO * Two Prototype Low Noise VCO for ALSX and Y assembled ([[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8968|JGW-D1808968]]), and noise of the one of them was measured. Meets the requirement. * We need three real ones for ALSX, ALSY and FSS * 110MHz for FSS? FSS AOM driver broken. Status? * For PLLX and PLLY, Keysight E8663D is used. * A/I: Need to develop a code to sweep the frequency. * RF source * Harmonics Generator arrived * We currently have 6 Agilent N5181B, but we need 7 [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=6762|JGW-T1706762]] * PMC PDH (15MHz) * Refcav PDH (51.75MHz) * IMC PDH (13.78MHz) * seed for Harmonics Generator * ALSX PDH (33MHz) (NOTE that 33MHz for ALSX PDH, not 32MHz) * ALSY PDH (32MHz) * Not necessary until Yarm commissioning starts (mid-Nov?) * seed for ALS VCO (~70MHz) * Now uses Keysight 33611A-OCX [[https://klog.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/osl/?r=7019|klog #7019]] * RF amplifier for EOM requested to AEL [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=9260|JGW-T1809260]] * Common mode servo board [[KAGRA/Subgroups/MIF/AEL/CMSB|CMSB wiki]] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8547|JGW-G1808547]] * Summarized, requested to AEL [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=9210|JGW-T1809210]] * We will make 20 boards, and 10 will be assembled as chassis * We currently have 5 chassis and used for 1st MZI, IMC, CARM, PLL X, ALS PDHX * Needs 4 chassis more soon: 2nd MZI, PLL Y, ALS PDHY, ALS COMM summing node * 6 chassis for spare: MZI, IMC, CARM, PLL, PDH, summing node * OMC status * OMC was locked from the digital system [[https://klog.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/osl/?r=6846|klog #6846]] * DC PD Preamp SN1 was broken, but replaced * transfer function of DC PD should be measured within a few % for calibration * DC QPD amplifier not arrived yet * Calculations on DC power and circuit noise -> Somiya & Arai * Koji's calculation: [[KAGRA/Subgroups/IOO/OMC/DCPDCalculation|DCPDCalculation]] * Electronics status * In-vac DC PD amplifier board finalized [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=9177|JGW-D1809177]] * In-air DC QPD amplifier board not arrived yet * ITMY inhomogeneity [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8715|JGW-T1808715]] * We should check impact on sensitivity and locking as soon as possible * For both O3 and full bKAGRA * There was a discussion whether we should re-optimize OMC for BRSE or DRSE without homodyne angle optimization. * ASC simulation by FINESSE show worse signal when ITMY inhomogeniety is added (a few % degradation in shot noise?) * higher order contents, especially odd-order modes are worse * But still need to check the Finesse code (alignment loop not closed yet) * FINESSE calculation on ASC was not reliable since Gouy phase tuning was not done * Working on Gouy phase tuning * General comments from Koji's Kamioka visit * Many people assembling and installing things without looking at drawings * Many works that can be done remote are done at Kamioka. Work at Kamioka is very expensive. * Slow channels may be needed for monitoring things(PLC based? Beckhoff? Acromag?) ---- * RF generation using Mach-Zehnder interferometer [Kohei Yamamoto] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7309|JGW-G1707309]] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7655|JGW-G1807655]] [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=8029|JGW-G1808029]] * simulation on imperfections (MZ arm asymmetry, MZ lock, EOM phase difference control etc.) * calculate requirements on MZI displacement, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance * Requirements derived from full Optickle simulation and those derived from transfer function between displacement of MZI and sideband power kind of matched after implementing RAM into calculation for the latter. However, we need more investigation on the following issues: * Modulation depth for RAM generating EOM changes the requirement. * Spectrum shapes of the requirements for mid-fringe do not match. Maybe coming from accuracy of the mid-fringe? * Unknown frequency response of the transfer function from the displacement of MZI and sideband power * Check if caluculated RF oscillator amplitude noise is relative one or not with simple Optickle model * calculations for requirements on delay line lock displacement noise, parallel EOM MZ lock displacement noise, EOM modulation phase difference, EOM imbalance on-going * Relative f1 PM and f1 AM also needs to be adjusted ([[http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0264-9381/31/9/095003/meta|CQG 31, 095003 (2014)]]). Another EOM for f1 or relative amplitude adjuster between two EOMs? * Requirement on carrier power loss? * Comment from Stefan Ballmer * Similar calculation was done in LIGO in the past. Displacement noise requirement for MZ was tough (~1e-14 m/rtHz). * Any in-air interferometer suffer from jitter and frequency noise which cannot be suppressed. * Ref: [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-T040119/public|LIGO-T040119]] * MZI implementation starts in May, probably before high power laser installation * RF oscillator noise requirements for MZI should also be calculated * IMMT1 and IMMT2 transmission [Michimura, Takeda] * IMMT2 transmission optics are too much squeezed * DC QPD holder [Michimura] * beam height should be 4inch to use similar mount, with small modification of spacer (instead of 3inch in [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=2607|JGW-D1402607]]) * RF PD, RF QPD boxes are designed for 4inch beam height * stages are not needed for ISC DC QPD * design new ones; they can be very simple [-> Michimura?] * calibration can be done in different ways * put strain relief and anchors for cables to protect QPD board * OMC and OFI [Somiya] * look for OFI with larger aperture [Somiya] * DC PD and DC QPD [Michimura] * DC PD not available. Look for product with similar specs * DC QPD available from RS * In-vacuum RF PD and RF QPD * we need them within 1 year, considering OMC REFL and AS RF * In-vac beam-dumps * required spec? * Actuator noise modeling [Michimura,Miyamoto] * Summarized in the paper [[https://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=7051|JGW-P1707051]] * Needs to implement frequency noise, but FSS modeling with ALS is complicated [student!] * Discuss mirror vibration from heat link * Meeting on July 14 [Yamada, Miyamoto, Ushiba, Michimura] See [[KAGRA/subgroup/ifo/MIF/Minutes20170410|this page]] for other agendas.