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eZuce: http://srn.ezuce.com/joinSRN?meeting=MtM8Ma2u2DDsDe9s9eDs9t
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eZuce: Participants: Y. Aso, T. Akutsu, H. Yamamoto, K. Kokeyama, O. Miyakawa, Y. Michimura
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Participants: == Minutes ==
 * bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics
  * Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
   * 1st stage amp is heating up
   * '''decide if we need 1st stage amp or not [Michimura]'''
  * remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC
   * MIF will take care istead of AEL
   * mass production will be taken care by AEL
  * RF Distribution Amplifier
   * we will omit RF monitor for now, and add them later
   * '''ask LIGO people for necessity of RF monitor [Michimura]'''
 * RF generation scheme
  * be careful of harmonics generator generating unwanted harmonics
 * OFI telecon summary
  * calculation by Somiya show single pendulum is enough for OFI and OMC
  * but we need cross check -> Somiya, Hiro
 * bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
  * POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
  * we need layout CAD for POY pickoff mirror, POP pickoff mirror to design baffles
   * '''talk with Kawamura who to assign [Michimura]'''
   * '''possibility of buying baffles next FY? -> ask SEO [Aso]'''
 * iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
  * mysterious LPF was from saturation
  * '''write an elog about this conclusion [Aso]'''
 * Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
  * aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
  * aLIGO viewport is always closed
  * if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon
 * Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
  * recent result show dR < 1e-7 Ohm/rtHz, so it may meet the requirement
  * slow (~20 min) drift at dR ~ 5e-4 Ohm -> this should be negligible
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== Adgenda == == Agenda ==
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  * initiated Optickle 2 modeling: [[https://granite.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/trac/LCGT/browser/trunk/mif/KAGRAOptickle/bKAGRAPhase1/|KAGRAOptickle SVN]] (login required)
  * Optickle (Optickle2) seminar on July 1 [[http://densuke.biz/list?cd=bNJ9WSPSEQNxheCy|densuke]]
    * LSC sensing matrix is OK
   * initiated Optickle 2 modeling: [[https://granite.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/trac/LCGT/browser/trunk/mif/KAGRAOptickle/bKAGRAPhase1/|KAGRAOptickle SVN]] (login required)
   * Optickle (Optickle2) seminar on July 1 [[http://densuke.biz/list?cd=bNJ9WSPSEQNxheCy|densuke]]
    * announced to Toyama and Niigata students
   * length
sensing matrix is OK
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   * cost estimate arrived
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  * we actually had only two months for room temperature PRMI with dummy payload
   * PR mirrors will be ready by the end of 2017.7 (BS ready by the end of 2017.3)
  * what should we do?
   * initial alignment to both ends before cryopayload is ready (2017.8-9)
   * PR-ETMX cavity during two months of ETMY cryopayload installation?
    * can we do ASC with such a low finesse?
    * PAB said we should do ETMY installation first (since Xend is dangerous)
   * PRM-PR2-PR3 cavity? -> unstable
  * possibility of installing cryopayload earlier is being discussed [Ando, Saito, CRYp]
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  * Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
  * remake IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC for IMC WFS
  * assemble RF Distribution Amplifier
  * RF Patch Panel modification
  * Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue [AEL]
  * remake IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC temporarily for IMC WFS by 2016.10
   * confirmed with Miyakawa that AEL will take care
  * assemble RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?]
   * MIF will take care of assembling and purchasing with AEL budget
   * in the process of ordering RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-10-23-CK or LNBA-11-23-CK)
   * in the process of ordering RF splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+)
   * basically copy of [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-D1000124/public|LIGO-D1000124]], but we might omit [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-D1000064/public|Interface]]
  * RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]
 * RF generation scheme [Michimura]
  * f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
  * we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
  * use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz)?
  * use multiple signal generators with frequency doubler and differential frequency generator?
 * Summary of OFI telecon on June 24 [[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5313|JGW-G1605313]] [Somiya]
  * reduce number of output steering mirrors (OSM) from two to one
  * move OFI postion to be between OMMT2 and OSM
  * suspend OMC and IFI both by single pendula
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  * POY beam is clipped by PR3 optical bench suspension wire   * POY beam is clipped by PR3 optical bench suspension wire [[https://www.dropbox.com/s/4jio2tlmlavoffr/bKAGRA_wframes160621.dxf?dl=0|CAD drawing by Shoda]]
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  * if watchdog resistance noise should be less than DAC noise, dR < 6e-8 Ohm/rtHz (High Power Coil Driver case), dR < 5e-6 Ohm/rtHz (Low Power Coil Driver case), both at 10 Hz
  * too meet actuator noise requirement, dR < 8e-5 Ohm/rtHz (for BS/SRs), dR < 6e-5 Ohm/rtHz (for PRs), both at 10 Hz
  * watchdog resistance fluctuation was measured to be dR < ~1e-6 Ohm (measurement noise limited) ([[http://gwdoc.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/cgi-bin/private/DocDB/ShowDocument?docid=5270|JGW-E1605270]])
  * see, also, [[KAGRA/Subgroups/VIS/VISMinutes20160603|VISMinutes20160603]]
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 * BS baffle could make contract defect? ([[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-T1000090|LIGO-T1000090]]) [Akutsu,Hiro]
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2016/6/27 14:00 - 15:00 2016/7/25 14:00 - 15:00

ISC Meeting on 2016/6/27 14:00 - 15:00

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Participants: Y. Aso, T. Akutsu, H. Yamamoto, K. Kokeyama, O. Miyakawa, Y. Michimura

Minutes

  • bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics
    • Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue
      • 1st stage amp is heating up
      • decide if we need 1st stage amp or not [Michimura]

    • remake of Quad IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC
      • MIF will take care istead of AEL
      • mass production will be taken care by AEL
    • RF Distribution Amplifier
      • we will omit RF monitor for now, and add them later
      • ask LIGO people for necessity of RF monitor [Michimura]

  • RF generation scheme
    • be careful of harmonics generator generating unwanted harmonics
  • OFI telecon summary
    • calculation by Somiya show single pendulum is enough for OFI and OMC
    • but we need cross check -> Somiya, Hiro

  • bKAGRA optical layout around PRC
    • POY clipping issue will be solved by modifying PR3 optical bench suspension [Shoda]
    • we need layout CAD for POY pickoff mirror, POP pickoff mirror to design baffles
      • talk with Kawamura who to assign [Michimura]

      • possibility of buying baffles next FY? -> ask SEO [Aso]

  • iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
    • mysterious LPF was from saturation
    • write an elog about this conclusion [Aso]

  • Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
    • aLIGO case: SRM-OFI-viewport, KAGRA case: SRM-viewport-OMMT-OFI
    • aLIGO viewport is always closed
    • if we need super quality viewport, we have to decide soon
  • Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
    • recent result show dR < 1e-7 Ohm/rtHz, so it may meet the requirement

    • slow (~20 min) drift at dR ~ 5e-4 Ohm -> this should be negligible

Agenda

  • bKAGRA Phase 1 optical configuration study [Michimura]
    • HOM structure / LSC / ASC check [Michimura]
      • initiated Optickle 2 modeling: KAGRAOptickle SVN (login required)

      • Optickle (Optickle2) seminar on July 1 densuke

        • announced to Toyama and Niigata students
      • length sensing matrix is OK
    • continue checking dummy ETM availability [Hirose]
      • cost estimate arrived
    • check if reference spheres for PR mirrors are available at Caltech [Hirose]
    • check if IMC length stability and others are compatible with 3-km PRMI [Michimura]
    • check if dummy payload is quiet enough to make PRMI [Michimura]
  • bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: JGW-T1605274

    • we actually had only two months for room temperature PRMI with dummy payload
      • PR mirrors will be ready by the end of 2017.7 (BS ready by the end of 2017.3)
    • what should we do?
      • initial alignment to both ends before cryopayload is ready (2017.8-9)
      • PR-ETMX cavity during two months of ETMY cryopayload installation?
        • can we do ASC with such a low finesse?
        • PAB said we should do ETMY installation first (since Xend is dangerous)
      • PRM-PR2-PR3 cavity? -> unstable

    • possibility of installing cryopayload earlier is being discussed [Ando, Saito, CRYp]
  • bKAGRA Phase 1 analog electronics request for AEL (Analog Electronics for ISC) [Michimura]

    • request for AEL [Michimura]
    • Quad IQ Demodulator heat-up issue [AEL]
    • remake IQ Demodulator LSC to ASC temporarily for IMC WFS by 2016.10
      • confirmed with Miyakawa that AEL will take care
    • assemble RF Distribution Amplifier [Michimura->Niigata students?]

      • MIF will take care of assembling and purchasing with AEL budget
      • in the process of ordering RF amp (Wenzel LNBA-10-23-CK or LNBA-11-23-CK)
      • in the process of ordering RF splitter (Mini-Circuits ZCSC-8-1+)
      • basically copy of LIGO-D1000124, but we might omit Interface

    • RF Patch Panel modification [Michimura->Niigata students?]

  • RF generation scheme [Michimura]
    • f1 = 3/8*f2, f3 = 10/8*f2
    • we need 2*f1, 2*f2, f3-f1, f3-f2 as well
    • use harmonics generator (x2, x3, x6, x8, x10, x16 for f2/8 = 5.62698725 MHz)?
    • use multiple signal generators with frequency doubler and differential frequency generator?
  • Summary of OFI telecon on June 24 JGW-G1605313 [Somiya]

    • reduce number of output steering mirrors (OSM) from two to one
    • move OFI postion to be between OMMT2 and OSM
    • suspend OMC and IFI both by single pendula


  • bKAGRA optical layout around PRC [Aso]
  • iKAGRA post-run calibration mystery [Aso]
  • Requirement for the noise of watchdogs for coil drivers [Aso]
    • if watchdog resistance noise should be less than DAC noise, dR < 6e-8 Ohm/rtHz (High Power Coil Driver case), dR < 5e-6 Ohm/rtHz (Low Power Coil Driver case), both at 10 Hz

    • too meet actuator noise requirement, dR < 8e-5 Ohm/rtHz (for BS/SRs), dR < 6e-5 Ohm/rtHz (for PRs), both at 10 Hz

    • watchdog resistance fluctuation was measured to be dR < ~1e-6 Ohm (measurement noise limited) (JGW-E1605270)

    • see, also, VISMinutes20160603

  • Viewport quality for GV between SRM and OMMT [Akutsu]
  • BS baffle could make contract defect? (LIGO-T1000090) [Akutsu,Hiro]

  • bKAGRA ISC cabling [Michimura/Doi]
    • Doi-san said he will help.
  • Mirror absorption measurement status [Hirose]
  • Output optics status [Somiya]
    • suspensions for OMMT1/2 is same as IMMT1/2, ask Takahashi-san to add drivers to his list: JGW-L1605193

    • we have to make vacuum compatible PD/QPD for OMC by 2018.3
    • beam shutter: prototype done, AR coating and driver circuit design not yet
  • Magnetic noise, actuator noise calculation for cryogenic payload [Michimura]
  • Task list update (TaskList) [Michimura]

Next meeting

2016/7/25 14:00 - 15:00

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