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ISC Meeting on 2017/7/31 14:00 - 15:00

Participants: Somiya, Komori, Izumi, Miyakawa, Ushiba, Arai, Hiro Yamamoto, Hirose, Akutsu, Kokeyama, Tagoshi, Haino, Michimura (eZuce meeting)

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2017/9/11 14:00 - 15:00 (August 14 is a holiday, August 28 is F2F; we might have another meeting if necessary by then)

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Minutes

• bKAGRA sensitivity update [Komori] JGW-T1707019

  • vertical to longitudinal coupling for thermal noise calculation assumed to be 1/200
  • thermal noise from recoil mass is not included, but not significant since recoil mass chain is suspended from platform
  • suspension thermoelastic noise is not included, but not significant in cryogenic temperatures

  • A/I before proposing to SEO [-> Komori]

    • include detailed differences between 2009ver, 2016ver and 2017ver (vertical thermal noise, GGN, wire parameters, etc.)
    • include absorption from apertures (50mW) for temperature calculation
    • make parameter list for updated calculation
• OMC and OFI status [Somiya]
  • OMC cavity length for first stage
    • shorter is better for PZT range for compensating cavity length change due to temperature change
    • shorter is better for OMC breadboard resonances and suspension system
    • longer is better since no modematching etc. change is needed
    • 2 PDs and beam dumps on OMC breadboard are must
  • OMC suspension review with UWA was held
  • use PBS reflection of OFI?
    • transmission is better considering isolation ratio
• bKAGRA Phase 1 ETM [Hirose]
  • coating absorption could be much worse than final ETM (but not measured yet)
  • even if coating absorption is 30ppm or so, it is OK for first stage
  • when to change ETMs to final ones?

Agenda

• bKAGRA sensitivity update [Komori] JGW-T1707019

  • thermal noise calculation error corrected, substrate absorption 30ppm/cm

    • latest EO approved estimated sensitivity is in JGW-G1605698, but this has error in the code

    • Study report on LCGT interferometer observation band in 2009 is in JGW-T1000065

  • torsion modes of blade springs could complicate the suspension thermal noise

  • heat absorption budget

    • substrate absorption 30 ppm/cm, coating absorption 0.5 ppm (less than 0.5 ppm after annealing, measured by LMA)
    • heat from coils [Miyamoto]

      • 2.2 mW (see ActuatorDesign wiki) -> negligible

    • heat from apertures 50 mW? (Sakakibara CQG 2015)

  • thermal noise calculation meeting with R. Kumar at KEK on Aug 1
  • schedule

    • propose before Aug 7 SEO&chief or Aug 21 SEO&chief

    • KSC discussion at F2F on Aug 28
    • EO approval on ??

• PSL EOM Layout re-consideration [Enomoto] (JGW-T1706748)

  • Delay-line length decided to be 2.66 m (instead of 8.88 m)
  • Modulation phase between f1 AM and PM is always aligned (we need this to be aligned)

  • Modulation index needed at each EOM is less than measured maximum index by Uehera (JGW-T1605611)

  • Optickle simulation by Kohei Yamamoto
    • simulation on imperfections (MZ arm asymmetry, MZ lock, EOM phase difference control etc.)
    • start with hand calculation, simple setups, and then to full IFO simulation
  • Requirement on carrier power loss?
  • Comment from Stefan Ballmer
    • Similar calculation was done in LIGO in the past. Displacement noise requirement for MZ was tough (~1e-14 m/rtHz).
    • Any in-air interferometer suffer from jitter and frequency noise which cannot be suppressed.
• OFI and OMC status? [Somiya]
  • look for OFI with larger aperture [Somiya]
  • output optics task sharing status?
  • OMC baseplate issue?

  • design review on June 26 at Titech (JGW-G1706853,JGW-G1706854), layout review on July 3

    • OMC suspension (Flipped optics or not? 3 or 4 wires? 2 or 1 DC PD? How to damp and actuate pendulum?), OFI suspension
  • frame resonant frequency should be fixed based on vibration isolation requirements
  • frame should be made like Bosch frame (screws screwed in the direction of pillars are bad!)
  • flipped OMC is inconvenient for alignment
  • put beam dumps as much as possible on OMC

  • Somiya and Kasuya visit Koji's OMC lab (Amaldi at Caltech)

    • Current OMC design is optimized for BAE, but BAE is far future. Why don't we make compact lower finesse OMC first. It is also better for squeezing. Squeezing or balanced homodyne sounds feasible than BAE using contrast defect.
      • prototype OMC could have some constraints from the mode-matching
    • aLIGO spare OMC production should start in 2017. Send students?

• Actuator noise modeling [Michimura,Miyamoto] (JGW-T1503453)

  • Updated magnet size for cryopayload marionette (ActuatorDesign wiki)

  • Updated lock acquisition section to derive velocity requirements for suspensions (see ISC Meeting minutes 20170410) [Michimura]

  • Magnetic noise calculation updated (JGW-T1504459) [Shimoda]

    • Added torque effect on magnets
  • Needs to implement frequency noise, but FSS modeling with ALS is complicated [student!]

  • Discuss mirror vibration from heat link

    • Meeting on July 14 [Yamada, Miyamoto, Ushiba, Michimura]

• bKAGRA Phase 1 initial alignment / commissioning plan [Michimura]: JGW-T1605692

  • Fixed mirrors for AS port (including SR2)
  • Some comments from the Chief Meeting
    • Revised schedule seems compatible with PRMI. Why not?

      • PRMI is an option after achieving the Phase 1 goal, if it doesn't delay the final bKAGRA JGW-T1605595

    • Initial alignment does not interfere with ITM Type-A installation work?
    • Evacuation of IXC/IYC compatible with Type-A installation work?
    • Baffle PDs for initial alignment in vacuum
      • confirmed with Akutsu that he is thinking of putting PDs on narrow angle baffles
      • vibration isolation for baffle PDs necessary?
      • possibility of seeing beams with Tcam
• IR/green steering mirrors [Michimura] (see [kagra-isc 01649])
  • for POP/POS and green steering in PR2/SR2 chamber, needs picomotors and ~40 cm pedestals
  • need this by the end of August 2017 (after PR2 installation on June, before IR initial alignment starts on September)
  • proposed mirror specs
    • HR reflectivity: more than 99% for both 1064nm and 532nm
    • AR refectivity: less than 0.3 % for 1064nm, similar for 532nm
    • incient angle: 20-45 deg, s-polarization
    • radius of curvature: flat

      • should be something like: larger than *** km

        • λ/20 corresponds to RoC of 12 km (by company S)
    • size: 2-inch
    • wedge: 1 deg
    • substrate: Fused Silica
    • surface quality: λ/20, 0.1 nm rms roughness

  • MIF will pay

  • Ordered on July 19

• DC QPD holder [Michimura]

  • beam height should be 4inch to use similar mount, with small modification of spacer (instead of 3inch in JGW-D1402607)

    • RF PD, RF QPD boxes are designed for 4inch beam height
  • stages are not needed for ISC DC QPD

  • design new ones; they can be very simple [-> Michimura?]

  • calibration can be done in different ways
  • put strain relief and anchors for cables to protect QPD board

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